Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Ben » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:49 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby cooran » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:15 pm

Hello Sonam,

Just wanted you to know that views expressed in this thread are the opinions of the writer of each post, not of all members of Dhamma Wheel or of very many Theravadins.

I have deep respect for the Dalai Lama, and have attended two Retreats with him when we have been fortunate enough for him to visit Australia.

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby bodom » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:12 pm

I would venture to say the visuddhimagga is a little intimidating and baffling to most at first. I know it was for me when I first picked it up. It is basically the entire tipitaka condensed between two covers. There is alot to take in and digest.

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby jcsuperstar » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:57 am

i started to read it on a retreat two years ago, i never got to the meditation part... :embarassed:
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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Ben » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:34 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:34 pm

Veering slightly off the immediate topic ... which translation of the Vsm do you folks like?
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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:43 am

Hi Kim
I think you will find most people will have the Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli translation published either by BPS or Pariyatti.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby BlackBird » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:26 am

Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli was a gentleman and a scholar. ;)
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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby mikenz66 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:27 am

As Ben says, the Nanamoli translation from BPS is probably the realistic choice.
http://www.bps.lk/
Aparrently they are working on a re-typesetting, which will also result in a free PDF. See the post here by Bhikkhu Nyanatusita:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... =20#p32156

As far as I know, the only other option in English is the ancient PTS translation:
http://www.palitext.com/palitext/tran.htm

The Path of Purity,
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One of the most influential Pāli texts, this compendium of Buddhist doctrine and metaphysics is the most important book written by Buddhaghosa. It provides a systematic exposition of Buddhist teaching and is also a detailed manual for meditation. (5th century C.E.)
Translation of Visuddhimagga.

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:33 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:35 am

Thanks, folks.
I'll put it on my wish list. :smile:

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

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Every blade in the field,
Every leaf in the forest,
Lays down its life in its season,
As beautifully as it was taken up.

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