Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

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Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

Postby mwight » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:39 am

Hello all,

I am looking for Meditations, Practices, Methods Etc. to end the rebirth cycle.
It is my goal for to be liberated from the cycle of rebirth before my death in this lifetime. As of yet I have found no teachings which deal specifically with this from the Buddhist school of thought only Taoism and those teachings are kept secret by their lineages. I know about the 8 fold path, being a good person, mindfulness meditation, observing the breath, loving kindness meditation, etc. Are there any meditations, methods or practices though that deal specifically with ending rebirth. If you know of any if you could discuss them with me I would be much appreciative.

Thank you.
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Re: Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:45 am

Greetings mwight,

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel.

Why do you think the Noble Eightfold Path is insufficient for attaining this goal?

Venerable Paisan Visalo wrote:Almost everyone perceives oneself as something or another. Once such perception arises, birth (jati) occurs, followed by decay (jara), death (marana) and suffering (dukkha). In fact, it is not perception of "I" alone, but an attachment that comes along causes suffering. We can say that the Buddha overcomes the issue of identity because he does not attach to value to be anything, which is only conventional truth, not ultimate truth.


Source: http://buddhadasa.nalanda.org.br/buddhacariya_en.html

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Retro. :)
Through corruption of the Dhamma comes corruption of the discipline, and from corruption of the discipline comes corruption of the Dhamma. This is the first future danger as yet unarisen that will arise in the future. You should recognize it and make an effort to prevent it. (AN 5.79)

"If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good." - Thomas J. Watson

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Re: Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:47 am

mwight wrote:Hello all,

I am looking for Meditations, Practices, Methods Etc. to end the rebirth cycle.
It is my goal for to be liberated from the cycle of rebirth before my death in this lifetime. As of yet I have found no teachings which deal specifically with this from the Buddhist school of thought only Taoism and those teachings are kept secret by their lineages. I know about the 8 fold path, being a good person, mindfulness meditation, observing the breath, loving kindness meditation, etc. Are there any meditations, methods or practices though that deal specifically with ending rebirth. If you know of any if you could discuss them with me I would be much appreciative.

Thank you.

Ud 1.10 PTS: Ud 6
Bahiya Sutta: About Bahiya
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John D. Ireland
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"Herein, Bahiya, you should train yourself thus: 'In the seen will be merely what is seen; in the heard will be merely what is heard; in the sensed will be merely what is sensed; in the cognized will be merely what is cognized.' In this way you should train yourself, Bahiya.

"When, Bahiya, for you in the seen is merely what is seen... in the cognized is merely what is cognized, then, Bahiya, you will not be 'with that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'with that,' then, Bahiya, you will not be 'in that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'in that,' then, Bahiya, you will be neither here nor beyond nor in between the two. Just this is the end of suffering."

Now through this brief Dhamma teaching of the Lord the mind of Bahiya of the Bark-cloth was immediately freed from the taints without grasping. Then the Lord, having instructed Bahiya with this brief instruction, went away…
..

"Bhikkhus, Bahiya of the Bark-cloth was a wise man. He practiced according to Dhamma and did not trouble me by disputing about Dhamma. Bhikkhus, Bahiya of the Bark-cloth has attained final Nibbana."

Then, on realizing its significance, the Lord uttered on that occasion this inspired utterance:

Where neither water nor yet earth
Nor fire nor air gain a foothold,
There gleam no stars, no sun sheds light,
There shines no moon, yet there no darkness reigns.

When a sage, a brahman, has come to know this
For himself through his own wisdom,
Then he is freed from form and formless.
Freed from pleasure and from pain.
This inspired utterance was spoken by the Lord also, so I did hear.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam
Damned if I know.

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Re: Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

Postby Goofaholix » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:49 am

mwight wrote:Hello all,

I am looking for Meditations, Practices, Methods Etc. to end the rebirth cycle.
It is my goal for to be liberated from the cycle of rebirth before my death in this lifetime. As of yet I have found no teachings which deal specifically with this from the Buddhist school of thought only Taoism and those teachings are kept secret by their lineages. I know about the 8 fold path, being a good person, mindfulness meditation, observing the breath, loving kindness meditation, etc. Are there any meditations, methods or practices though that deal specifically with ending rebirth. If you know of any if you could discuss them with me I would be much appreciative.

Thank you.
:namaste:


The method you are looking for is commonly called "Buddhism", there is no quick fix or shortcut sorry.
"Right effort is effort with wisdom. Because where there is wisdom, there is interest. The desire to know something is wisdom at work. Being mindful is not difficult. But it’s difficult to be continuously aware. For that you need right effort. But it does not require a great deal of energy. It’s relaxed perseverance in reminding yourself to be aware. When you are aware, wisdom unfolds naturally, and there is still more interest." - Sayadaw U Tejaniya

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Re: Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:33 pm

The shortest possible route is through the practice of insight meditation.

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Re: Meditation And/Or Methods To End Rebirth?

Postby meindzai » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:11 pm

mwight wrote:I know about the 8 fold path, being a good person, mindfulness meditation, observing the breath, loving kindness meditation, etc.
Thank you.
:namaste:


You mentioned the eightfold path, which is part of the fourth noble truth, but did you miss the first three?

"Suffering, as a noble truth, is this: Birth is suffering...

"The origin of suffering, as a noble truth, is this: It is the craving that produces renewal of being accompanied by enjoyment and lust, and enjoying this and that..."

"Cessation of suffering, as a noble truth, is this: It is remainderless fading and ceasing, giving up, relinquishing, letting go and rejecting, of that same craving."


"The way leading to cessation of suffering, as a noble truth, is this: It is simply the noble eightfold path..."


Abbreviated four noble truths from the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta

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