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500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

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Re: 500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

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Re: 500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

Postby BlackBird » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:22 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: 500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

Postby gavesako » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:44 pm

Such millenial references are found even earlier, for example in the later parts of the Theragatha in the verses of Parapariya. He speaks of the "final age" (pacchima-kala) in which the Dhamma disappears and urges a return to the forest:

http://books.google.com/books?id=0TMsdV ... ya&f=false
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Kiṃkusalagavesī anuttaraṃ santivarapadaṃ pariyesamāno... (MN 26)

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Re: 500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:08 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: 500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

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Re: 500,000 upasika ordination in Thailand. Real ordination?

Postby BlackBird » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:39 am

Cheers guys

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -


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