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Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand, - Dhamma Wheel

Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:19 am

Hello all,

I have read the sad stories of western monks ordained in Thailand who weren't able to follow strict meditation practice. I wonder, can a westerner ordain in other countries such as Burma and Sri Lanka?

Are there good monasteries where one can get quickly ordained and become a meditating monk? If in Thailand it is very hard to be a meditating monk, what about in other countries like Burma or Sri Lanka?


Thanks,


With metta,

Alex
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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:47 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby appicchato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:04 am

One needs to look at the big picture, and not necessarily only the views of a disgruntled few...a monk in Thailand can meditate all he wants to...generally speaking a monk, in a temple, has no more than three or four hours a day of monastic duties...i.e. alms round, morning and evening chanting, and the occasional ceremony...additionally, a temple isn't a prison...one doesn't have to reside in one...

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:49 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby BlackBird » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:20 am

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby gavesako » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:54 pm

If you ordain just in order to "meditate" all the time, then you might be frustrated because this is not all the monks' life is about. Better stay a layperson in that case. But if you want to use the whole monk's lifestyle for awakening, then you will find it quite supportive.
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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:15 am

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:17 am

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby BlackBird » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:59 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby appicchato » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:58 am

Alex...follow your heart...(and not necessarily you head)...and you should be fine...

Wishing you the best in your endeavor... :smile:

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:46 am

I have heard this before!

are you who I think you are??


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:57 am

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Bankei » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:29 pm

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby alan » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:23 pm

Your age and health problems are relevant, would you care to share that information?
Maybe you could also tell us what prevents you from arranging your life in such a way that you have many hours a day to devote to practice...?

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:49 pm

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:23 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Alex123 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:44 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:17 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Ordination in Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand,

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