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Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby cooran » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:01 am

Hello all,

Yesterday morning I went with a bush-walking group to do a circuit at Mt. Mee north of Brisbane. It was 13 kilometres - much of it in a steady uphill climb, and we completed it in 3 1/2 rather exhausting hours with two rest breaks for a drink. Many of the group used Poles to assist with the stepping uphill - I'm not sure whether to get any or not.

We went through some soggy areas infested with leeches. Many of the group found leeches on their boots, legs, and heads. I found one in my sock and before I realised another member sprayed it and killed it. When I got home and in the shower I found another one which had been feeding for about an hour and was as thick as my finger. It was still attached and warm water from the shower didn't shift it. I was hesitant to pull it off as I thought that might injure the l'il fella.
Eventually, when it finished its meal, it let go and I captured it in a small box, took it to the local park and released it in a marshy, muddy area a little protected from hunting birds by overhanging branches. The water was too shallow for fish - so perhaps the little being can live in safety.
Seems that if I accept the Buddha's teaching on re-becoming, then I have to live protecting beings that I come into contact with, if possible.

My family think this is a bit weird, but have learned to accept their resident buddhist with something approaching equanimity.

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Ben » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:20 am

Well done Chris!
I know I am a source of frustration in this household for not reaching for the insect spray when ants invade!
Good to see I'm not the only 'weird one'!!
I hope you enjoyed your bushwalk.
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:20 am

And here I thought this was to do, somehow, with George W. Bush and the Republican Party and a compassionate response to them.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Ben » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:47 am

Hey Tilt...
Stop giving our leeches a bad name!
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby alan » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:03 pm

Ha!
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Virgo » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:34 pm

Dear Christine,

This is most wonderful. I rejoice in your excellent merit. When human you will have a long life, have pleasing sights, safe and protected, be free of danger. When divine you have a long life, beautiful body, have pleasing soroundings and be pleasing to those around you. Keep up the good work. Without having human and divine births how could one be happy, Christine? How could own things with which to give? Without a long life, when it comes time to penetrate the dhamma how could one have a lifespan long enough to accomplish that? And in the lifetimes that one will hear and practice dhamma how could one have a long life without refraining from killing and injuring creatures, and refraining from ill-will? You have done an excellent deed. You are a true Buddhist. I rejoice in your good merits. Continue living this way and re-arise in heaven, Christine.


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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby cooran » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:00 am

Thank you for your kind words Kevin. :smile:
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Fede » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:16 am

:coffee:




:jawdrop:

O.....K.......

I have to admit, we don't get many leeches in St Albans..... although with climate change so high on the agenda, there's always the possibility..... should make a walk through Verulam Park more interesting......
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Though I think your landscape is more inspirational......
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby cooran » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:42 am

Hello Fede,

This is to scare you! The pictures are accurate .... so ..... Beware Climate Change! When they attach, you don't even know they are there. You just feel a tiny itch and discover the li'l being having lunch.


Leech mouth
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Normal size leeches
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Leech after a full feed
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Fede » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:42 am

Well, I'm not averse to the little critters..... and it seems they have their benefits, so it's not an entirely bad thing....

http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2003/july/leech.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3858087.stm
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

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Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:35 am

Virgo wrote: Continue living this way and re-arise in heaven
I would not want that. No "heaven" for me.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby cooran » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:35 pm

tiltbillings wrote:
Virgo wrote: Continue living this way and re-arise in heaven
I would not want that. No "heaven" for me.



Hello Tilt,

Are you claiming to be a Sakadagami or an Anagami?
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/ariyacht.htm

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:22 pm

cooran wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:
Virgo wrote: Continue living this way and re-arise in heaven
I would not want that. No "heaven" for me.

Hello Tilt,

Are you claiming to be a Sakadagami or an Anagami?
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/ariyacht.htm

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Perhaps he simply has lower expectations...
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:58 pm

cooran wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:
Virgo wrote: Continue living this way and re-arise in heaven
I would not want that. No "heaven" for me.



Hello Tilt,

Are you claiming to be a Sakadagami or an Anagami?
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/ariyacht.htm

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No; just that "heaven" is a waste of time; much prefer the human realm.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby general0bvious » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:43 am

Fede wrote:Well, I'm not averse to the little critters..... and it seems they have their benefits, so it's not an entirely bad thing....

http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2003/july/leech.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3858087.stm


They are amazing little critters :) It always brings a smile to my lips when I think about the fact that nature still do many things better than us, despite all the advancements in medical technology ;)
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby meindzai » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:48 am

What I've found interestng about my response to such things is that by extending compassion to these kinds of creatures I am no longer frightened by them. Even the creepiest of creepy crawlies seem to take on a different persona when I consider them as living beings worthy of compassion. I mean, there are certainly some ugly buggers out there, but that's from my human perspective. I'm sure their mates find them quite attractive. :)

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Virgo » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:04 am

Good thing we don't have them little buggers here. We do have a lot of ticks though. My county was either highest in New York State or for the whole country ( I can't quite remember, though I believe it was in the whole country) in cases of lyme disease, which is caused by deer ticks.

I agree with you meindzai. We should extend metta!

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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Kim OHara » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:40 am

meindzai wrote:What I've found interestng about my response to such things is that by extending compassion to these kinds of creatures I am no longer frightened by them. Even the creepiest of creepy crawlies seem to take on a different persona when I consider them as living beings worthy of compassion. I mean, there are certainly some ugly buggers out there, but that's from my human perspective. I'm sure their mates find them quite attractive. :)

-M

... and they probably find us quite ugly.
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby cooran » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:12 am

But delicious. :tongue:
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Re: Buddhism, Bush-walking and Leeches

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:58 am

cooran wrote:But delicious. :tongue:

Yeah, well ...
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This handsome gentleman doesn't find us delicious at all - he's a vegetarian, one to whom the first precept comes quite naturally.
I'm sorry he's a little out of focus, but I only had one hand for the camera because the other was occupied (pun intentional :tongue: ).
Thanks for giving me an excuse to share this with you all, Cooran.
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