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"Monks, there are many more things that I have found out..."

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:27 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: "Monks, there are many more things that I have found out..."

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:24 am

Hi Retro
Very interesting thanks, given me some things to ponder over
two things though

1.do you know where to find Cf. Nyanaponika Thera Abhidhamma Studies (BPS 1965), and Douglas M. Burns, Buddhist Meditation and Depth Psychology (WH 88-89)? I have seen it before but never read it.

2.how different are the translations (thanisaro & Walshe)? and did the differences give you any other wee insights?

I have Walshes digha Nikkaya but never read it for no particular reason other than sometimes I find it easier to look through A2I and cross reference from there and none of the DN suttas have come up or inclined me to do so.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: "Monks, there are many more things that I have found out..."

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:29 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: "Monks, there are many more things that I have found out..."

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:35 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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