Manapa wrote:Hi Sobeh,
I thought it was refering to Sati and its uses, rather than samadhi and its development.
Well, there are two things I'm responding to; this first post by Alex123 I found in agreement with the gradual training:
Alex123 wrote: Samadhi uses satipatthana and it uses 4 right efforts. These qualities work together.
I read this as sammasamadhi arises from sammasati, and sammasati arises from sammavayama. In other words, Right Concentration comes from Right Mindfulness which comes from Right Effort. This, then, seems to be in line with the Noble Eightfold Path. But this next quote is subtly different:
tiltbillings wrote:I would say that it the other way around satipatthana uses samadhi, given that it is certainly possible to develop highly refined samadhi without developing insight.
Here, I read it as saying sammasati uses sammasamadhi, which seems backwards. "Highly refined" samadhi does not sammasamadhi make - only sammasati does that, and in turn sammasati can lead to sammasamadhi only because it comes from sammavayama.