longer term financial and social implications of the Iceland

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Meanwhile, the German Air Navigation Services is unblocking the air space above Germany, and test flights seems to indicate that the ash is not as dangerous as assumed.
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PeterB wrote:Tell that to the Kenyan farmers who make their living from exporting their crop Chownah.

Anyway there is a NEW cloud so its apocalypse resumed.
If the rich people in Kenya stopped using all the good farmland to grow food for export then the local people could be totally independent by growing their own food locally. A big problem in the world today is that agrobusiness has tied up too much of the good land in under developed countries forcing agrarian peasants off the land into a "work for us or starve" social situation. My view is that the best thing that could happen for the poor Kenyan is for the big agrobusinesses to go broke and return the land back to the people who could then provide for themselves like thay used to do for hundreds of years. If you want to find out more about this kind of thing do some research on the social effect of the American Fruit Co. when they tied up most of the good farm land in Central America to grow bananas for the breakfast tables of the US.
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In the meantime thousands of workers were laid off yesterday because the crops are rotting in warehouses..
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This is about a week too late, but they always say 'better late than never' so here it is.

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PeterB wrote:In the meantime thousands of workers were laid off yesterday because the crops are rotting in warehouses..
This would never happen to local organic produce....and if it did it would just get composted and returned to the field for later reconstitution.
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I rather think the point is not what happened to the produce in warehouses..its the fact that thousands of the poorer Kenyans earned nothing this week.
They dont own the produce it is owned by conglomarates.
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How's the ash cloud, Peter?
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Two developments Ben...one is that the wind is set to change and blow it to the Amerikays...the second is that Americans and Canadians probably dont need to worry too much because the aviation authority has decided that the ash doesnt present a problem anyway...doh...
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For a moment there, it looked like the UK election would start get interesting with Gordon Brown going into emergeny management mode!
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PeterB wrote:I rather think the point is not what happened to the produce in warehouses..its the fact that thousands of the poorer Kenyans earned nothing this week.
They dont own the produce it is owned by conglomarates.
I agree....it is the plight of the poorer Kenyans which is really the issue here and not whether the vegetable wastes in Europe are being composted and returned to the land......since the poorer Kenyans are probably poorer because they were displaced from their indigenous lands they are not only now without earnings this week but they are also without food...if they lived in a landed community which produced and consumed local organic food then they would probably still have their earnings AND they would have readily available nutritious food at almost no cost except for their own labor......but sadly they are now disposessed from their lands and in a "work for me or starve" situation or should I say that they are now in a "work for me AND starve" situation....
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