There was no query, no claiming something wasn't needed, and nothing else implied!
try reading what I actually put.
Is jhana synonymous for satipatthana?
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
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Of course you are correct. The only thing you stated was that a document you had "a quick scim through" was unreliable due to several quirks. I was merely asking what they were - No Agendas. However it is probably best if I stop asking you what they were.Manapa wrote:There was no query, no claiming something wasn't needed, and nothing else implied!
try reading what I actually put.
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well if I point out one, and one is in your own quote, there should be no need, they were obvious, all you proceded to do was give counter arguments to what wasn't being argued against, that makes you look more and more like you are trying to prove something, or have an agenda.Brizzy wrote:Of course you are correct. The only thing you stated was that a document you had "a quick scim through" was unreliable due to several quirks. I was merely asking what they were - No Agendas. However it is probably best if I stop asking you what they were.Manapa wrote:There was no query, no claiming something wasn't needed, and nothing else implied!
try reading what I actually put.
you don't have to read something cover to cover analysing every word to see if it meet a certain standard of reliability, same way you don't need to walk all the way into a pig sty to know how it smells. if you want to trash things that is great, but don't expect others to do more than they feel is necessary.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
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Greetings,
Thanks to jc for putting me onto this short, yet relevant talk from venerable Gunaratna
Metta,
Retro.
Thanks to jc for putting me onto this short, yet relevant talk from venerable Gunaratna
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Nice talk,thanks for posting the video url, Retro!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
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Thanks JC & Retro
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill