I would say, know the mind and then let go, would be better...smokey wrote:You just have to let the mind be.
best wishes, acinteyyo
I would say, know the mind and then let go, would be better...smokey wrote:You just have to let the mind be.
I am reading you loud and clear. No worries.smokey wrote:I am just not good at expressing myself.
bodom wrote:I am reading you loud and clear. No worries.smokey wrote:I am just not good at expressing myself.
acinteyyo wrote:You're not completely off the track with your suggestion smokey. The Buddha taught the "middle way", when it comes to effort it has to be the right amount, it must be in balance with all the supporting factors and actual circumstances. Too much effort won't be good and when it's not enough effort it's also not good. This applies to the whole eightfold path.
best wishes, acinteyyo
Metta,"Now what do you think, Sona. Before, when you were a house-dweller, were you skilled at playing the vina?"
"Yes, lord."
"And what do you think: when the strings of your vina were too taut, was your vina in tune & playable?"
"No, lord."
"And what do you think: when the strings of your vina were too loose, was your vina in tune & playable?"
"No, lord."
"And what do you think: when the strings of your vina were neither too taut nor too loose, but tuned1 to be right on pitch, was your vina in tune & playable?"
"Yes, lord."
"In the same way, Sona, over-aroused persistence leads to restlessness, overly slack persistence leads to laziness. Thus you should determine the right pitch for your persistence, attune the pitch of the [five] faculties [to that], and there pick up your theme."
I understand, yes. To stick to Taoist concepts:smokey wrote:The answer is quite simple. People are putting too much effort while meditating. And I will just say wu-wei. Hope some of you contemplatives will understand.
Exactly!jcsuperstar wrote:seems to me that most people try harder at making the dhamma fit into their lives and into what they want it to be than they are trying to hard in meditation or making their lives fit the dhamma.
The way to stop doing that. Make meditation a habit - do it all the time, then you stop putting in too much effort because you're just doing what you're used to doing if you see what I mean.smokey wrote:The answer is quite simple. People are putting too much effort while meditating. And I will just say wu-wei. Hope some of you contemplatives will understand.
I think the real reason is that today people meditate in accordance with the Visuddhimagga and not in accordance with the Suttas.smokey wrote:The answer is quite simple. People are putting too much effort while meditating. And I will just say wu-wei. Hope some of you contemplatives will understand.