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Extreme Headaches!

Postby nritv » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:39 pm

Hello All

I would like to seek your advise and help for a perennial problem my sister has. She is having extreme headaches for the last couple of years and we have gone to every specialist and undergone all kinds of treatments but the headaches never stop. They go on for days and now it has become unbearable. Finally she is on medication that corrects the chemical imbalances in the brain. The good part is that the severity of the headaches reduced but she should be on constant medication.

I read a great deal about Dhamma(I am very new) and in one of the articles, I read that some chronic diseases can be cured by Vipassana/meditation.

I would appreciate if you can help me direct for any kind of solution. I am thinking of recommending Dhamma Meditation for 10 day's(Goenka's). Please guide us.


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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby bodom » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:45 pm

I would not go so far as to say vipassana will cure the headaches, but it might definitely make them more tolerable. Wishing you and your sister all the best.

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To practice is to know your defilements,
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Ben » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:32 pm

Hi nritv

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!
Lately I've been suffering from some pretty intense headaches myself. In my situation, tests and ct scans have come up clear. I've narrowed down the possible cause of my headaches to:
- super-sensitivity to caffeine and tannic acid (tea),
- my reading glasses requiring correction (possibly), and
- slightly elevated blood pressure

With regards to your sister's intention to do a ten-day course of vipassana meditation - I think its a great idea. However, I don't think your sister should go expecting a cure from headaches. The expectation or desire for a cure from headaches, like the expectation or desire for this or that meditative attainment, actually becomes a barrier to its attainment. By all means attend a ten-day course as the benefits will be above and beyond relief from headaches, even if your sister doesn;t get relief from headaches. But in the meantime, perhaps you and your sister can rule out some lifestyle issues that maybe triggering headaches.
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby jcsuperstar » Sat May 01, 2010 1:39 am

there are like a bazillion reasons you can get headaches, for stress caused headaches meditation is a great cure . you really just need to figure out why the headaches are being caused.
meditation never really helped mine however, qigong did , also a zen monk i knew used yoga for the same purpose.
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby m0rl0ck » Sat May 01, 2010 1:46 am

Johns Hopkins actually did a study on releiving migraines with meditation.

Check out all the google stuff related: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... on&spell=1
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Monkey Mind » Sat May 01, 2010 3:41 am

I think meditation can be a paradox sometimes. Meditation does not cure the headache, but helps one to better tolerate or accept the situation. And from a place of tolerance and acceptance, many medical conditions suddenly improve. So curing headaches might not be the result of meditation, but can be an accidental consequence.
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Goofaholix » Sat May 01, 2010 4:56 am

Goenka himself started practicing meditation because of his chronic headaches. Yes in time it helped him find freedom from them but he also found something far more valuable.

If she has come to the point where she feels she has nothing to lose then yes she should give it a go, as long as she takes care not to do anything to aggravate her condition and as long as she doesn't do it with the expectation that it will be a magic bullet.

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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby smokey » Mon May 03, 2010 4:33 pm

You can try to heal your sister with Zdenko Domancic. He is a famous bioenergy healer and he works for free. You can request a free remote healing therapy. Here is the website: http://www.domanciczdenko.eu/en

The method’s name is “Biotherapy According to the Method of Zdenko Domančić”. The method is one of the so called energy healing methods (the methods of influencing with biofield and effecting one’s biofield).

The goal of our therapies is to lessen or entirely eliminate health problems, as well as to enrich one’s personality and make it more resistible. The bioenergy always tries to solve the primary problem, or the cause, which would otherwise make it impossible for the person to recover.

The body is an energetic system in constant energetic interaction with its environment. We all are sensitive to forces and energies surrounding and changing us. Our entire physical and mental bodies constantly supply themselves with this life energy, which makes the existence possible in the first place. This energetic filling comes from the Earth and from the Universe. The flow of this invisible energy makes life on this planet possible. The channels of this universal energy are called meridians, which are present in plants, animals and in the humans. The energy channels are located near the nerves. The following shows that the information and energy are transmitted outside the nerve just like in case of the SKIN effect. This explanation makes the processes of reviving damaged informative paths during our therapy more understandable.

A human consists of energy and substance. In between there is blood, which is a substance and energy at the same time. Because of the oxygen’s paramagnetic attributes, the blood functions as a transmitter of earthly and cosmic energy in the body. Inside the powerful magnetic field, the oxygen gets its characteristics. As a transmitter of higher level energies and parameters of earthly magnetic field, the oxygen inside the cell actively collaborates at transforming energy. All forces of the universe, including the force of human consciousness, in the range from the highest consciousness to the depths of subconsciousness, are the transformations of cosmic energy. On the basis of realising these natural truths, master Zdenko Domančić developed a method with which he and his followers have helped more than a million of ill people. During the years, he has been offered to participate in many researches in the field of sciences, especially medicine, and he responded to them all. Hereby he proved the efficiency of his method, especially on the most serious illnesses of today’s population.

The therapy is performed in a group, but on each patient individually, according to his condition or disease, and only on the basis of diagnosis set by the Official Medicine (the therapeutist does not set the diagnosis). The therapy is performed for four days running. If necessary, the cycle of four days can be repeated.

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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby nritv » Mon May 10, 2010 3:47 am

My apologies for the late response and thank you all(I was on the road).

Thanks again for sparing time and advising/suggesting various alternatives. I am in the process of researching all the possibilities and will let you know the progress.


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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Potato » Mon May 24, 2010 1:54 am

Here are some headache remedies which are not necessarily physician-approved, but which give some people relief:

A drop of peppermint oil rubbed on each temple

Pour boiling water on basil and inhale the steam

Put your feet in ice water

I wish your sister luck. Chronic headaches are miserable.

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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Maitri » Mon May 24, 2010 2:15 am

"Upon a heap of rubbish in the road-side ditch blooms a lotus, fragrant and pleasing.
Even so, on the rubbish heap of blinded mortals the disciple of the Supremely Enlightened One shines resplendent in wisdom." Dhammapada: Pupphavagga

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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Northernbuck » Mon May 24, 2010 6:45 am

I also suffer from migraines just like Maitri. Mine are once every month or two and severe enough where the only solution is sleep. My are bad enough that if I don't sleep, I get violently ill. I have had them since I was young, so I figure at least 35 years. I have been using meditation to help with the initial pain. This will at least allow me to get home and to bed. I have tried everything, Tiger Balm, peppermint oil, Imitrex, and any other concoction. I hope your sister finds relief.
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby shadowmib » Sat May 29, 2010 6:26 pm

I used to suffer headaches and have discovered two causes..

One is high blood pressure which Is now under control by taking a medication called Norvasc.
The other was diet soft drinks with aspartame (Nutrasweet) in them. They would create intense headaches that lasted for days. I stopped drinking the diet drinks and the headaches stopped.

Hope this helps. :yingyang:
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby Alex123 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:23 am

One of the solutions to try is to drink lots of clear water (aim at 2.5+ liters per day), tea and juices do not count. It may help.
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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby pilgrim » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:36 am

Headaches very often have a psychological component. I am a chronic migraine sufferer and lately the pattern has settled into a weekly rhythm, with the coming of every Monday Blues. I use Cafergot and consume about 4-5 pills a month. Far from excessive if one goes by the recommended dosage.

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Re: Extreme Headaches!

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:40 am

Is it?

How do you know that to be so?


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Re: Extreme Headaches!

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