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Postby Wind » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:57 am

This might not add to the discussion but I personally prefer the term "stream-enterer" rather than "stream-winner". The word "winner" puts too much emphases on a prize of some sorts while "enterer" place more emphasis on accomplishing an important step on the path.

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Postby acinteyyo » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:38 pm

Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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Postby Annapurna » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:45 pm

I think we feel what is well said, because we won't resist it, but open up even to criticism.

The Buddha spoke in this way. Somebody not as accomplished may not be able to discern why he is pleased though.


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Postby Dhammabodhi » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:23 pm

Hello,

Talking of claiming attainment of Jhanas, there are some noble people here who have done this, and to be sure I've got immense inspiration and motivation from their posts. I'm "highly underqualified" (if there is such a term) to judge someone's ariya status even if I knew him/her personally, let alone in this forum (except of course, when some people make such claims and when people start asking question go into a raging madness) . So, I'll keep quiet. :coffee:

Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I can't begin to express how awe-inspiring it is for me to be in this forum. Thank you, all you noble people!! :anjali:

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P.S: Sorry for my little rant there. :)
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Not at all a rant Dhammabodhi.. :anjali:

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Postby Annapurna » Sun May 02, 2010 8:38 am

I don't think there are clear borders, because when this arises, that arises.

When stream entry happens, fruit is not far, or immediately there, if you think about it, in form of greater calm and happiness through clarity.

At least that is what comes to my mind. What arises in my mind.

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Postby fig tree » Mon May 03, 2010 6:53 am

Discussions of the seven purifications describe a stage where the "corruptions of insight" arise. If I remember correctly one of them is a feeling that one should go teach people. I get the impression that one of the purposes of these cautions against proclaiming one's high attainments is to protect the person at that stage. Probably it's a helpful thing if a person going through that who "acts out" their inclination to blab about it runs into people whose reaction is cautious and sober.

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Harch, unflinching honesty is the best tool to determine whether oneself is a stream entrant or not. I don't think anyone other than a Buddha can say whether another person is stream entrant.
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