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Shaving the head

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Shaving the head

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby Ben » Wed May 05, 2010 7:18 am

Hi 5K
Have you tried contacting Wat Pah Nanachat? That might be the way to go.
And I'm sure there will be a solution to your situation.
All the best,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Shaving the head

Postby cooran » Wed May 05, 2010 7:37 am

Hello 5Khandas,

I was talking to Ajahn Jac (an Aussie monastic - not sure of his full name) at the Mitra Conference - I went to ask him why his head appeared to have a very short growth of hair and why he seemed to have an equallly short beard. His reply was that the Vinaya allows two knuckles length of hair on the head and face. He reminded me that in the Buddha's time hair-cutting implements were rather crude and couldn't get much shorter than that.

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Re: Shaving the head

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Re: Shaving the head

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby 5Khandas » Wed May 05, 2010 7:15 pm

I'm not sure, but I'll go to the dermatologist again anyway, so perhaps I'll ask her. But for all I know, they don't like to ablate birthmarks, if not necessary (if they don't seem to turn into melanoma, for example). Also there are about 9 on my head - I don't know what the doctor would say, if I'd like to have all of them ablated.
Anyway, thanks for your idea!

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby Goofaholix » Wed May 05, 2010 9:35 pm

I would think this almost certainly rules out wat Pah Nanachaat, and possibly Theravada ordination in general.

You could try asking at different monasteries, you'd probably get better advice contacting one of the western branch manasteries.

I'd think about going Mahayana, or looking for a way to practice long term as a laymen rather than at wat Pah Nanachaat.

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby Kenshou » Thu May 06, 2010 12:46 am

Someone would be denied ordination for not being able to shave the head quite completely bald?

Really?

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby adosa » Thu May 06, 2010 1:20 am

"To avoid all evil, to cultivate good, and to cleanse one's mind — this is the teaching of the Buddhas" - Dhammapada 183

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Re: Shaving the head

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby appicchato » Thu May 06, 2010 1:37 am

Even the casual observer will see that, with the rarest of exceptions, we're (humans) not anything to write home to mom about...

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Re: Shaving the head

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby retrofuturist » Thu May 06, 2010 1:52 am

Greetings,

That's odd... why on earth would electric razors be taboo?

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby appicchato » Thu May 06, 2010 4:27 am

It's a crazy world Paul...as I'm sure you're aware of...or scissors? (as opposed to an electric razor)...why no scissors?...and (in Thailand) shaving your eyebrows?...eyebrows?...I 'trim' mine, to keep the peace, but don't shave them...

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby Ben » Thu May 06, 2010 4:42 am

Hi Bhante

your comment about shaving/trimming eyebrows reminded me that Quinn decided to shave his eyebrows off about a week ago. We found out after the fact. Previously he told me, one day out of the blue, that he wanted to become a monk. I'm just wondering how much of it is my influence or something deeper.
Who knows!
kind regards

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Shaving the head

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Re: Shaving the head

Postby appicchato » Thu May 06, 2010 9:00 am

If I were asked, I would say that it's all a game...a crazy, crazy, game...the holy life takes place between our ears, not wrapped in a sheet (like I am)...I wish you well in your endeavor, but I would also like to say that the holy life can be led in, or out of, the robes...

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