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Instincts...

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Instincts...

Postby chownah » Wed May 05, 2010 3:07 pm

What's the Buddha got to say about instincts? Could the mastering of instincts be equivalent to attaining nibhanna?...could this be why animals can't attain nibhanna (because they seemingly have no realization that instincts program alot of their behavior and so can not figure a way to eliminate that programming)?....could could could.....??????....I don't know...do you?
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Re: Instincts...

Postby Dan74 » Wed May 05, 2010 3:17 pm

Mastering the instincts is not nibbana, but it does help to have them under control! Lots of people master the instincts including the ascetics the Buddha studied with and left.

It seems especially hard in this day and age but I suspect this is due to our cultural conditioning.
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Re: Instincts...

Postby cooran » Wed May 05, 2010 7:37 pm

Hello chownah, all,

You may find these teachings by Buddhadasa Bhikkhu to be of assistance.

In this article, he mentions the Prison of Instincts:
The Prison of Life - (from a lecture given to foreign meditators on 10 February 2531 (1988) at Suan Mokkhabalarama.)
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/ebdha016.htm

Control Instinct ~ Buddhadasa Bhikkhu
http://www.knowbuddhism.info/2009/02/co ... tinct.html

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Re: Instincts...

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Re: Instincts...

Postby retrofuturist » Thu May 06, 2010 3:42 am

Greetings Chownah,

Are you familiar with the Pali term anusaya?

Metta,
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Re: Instincts...

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu May 06, 2010 5:29 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Instincts...

Postby chownah » Fri May 07, 2010 3:16 pm

My first take on "anusaya" was that it is not the same thing as "instinct"....but after a bit of thought it seems to me that while it is not what is ordinarily thought of as instinct it can be viewed as being a cluster of instincts not usually recognized in western thought....I guess.
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