Satipatthana Question

[sangyey]

Hi,

I just have a quick question regarding Satipattana. What Satipatthana contemplation would contemplating a Dharma teaching be (as in the second of the three types of wisdom,ie., the wisdom of reflection).

It's kind of a techincal question but I'm just not sure how it would be classified becasue it seems like it could be a body contemplation as in clear comprehension of an activity but it's really something you do with your mind so I am not sure if it could be contemplation of a Dhamma or something?

Thank you

[Zom]

This is not a contemplation of Teaching, but a contemplation of the 4 noble truths of dhammas (phenomenons) - that is direct meditative seeing of "anicca-anatta-dukkha dhammas flow of your body-and-mind". When you can see this directly in your meditation - you are very close to nibbana.

[brad48]

Hi,

I just have a quick question regarding Satipattana. What Satipatthana contemplation would contemplating a Dharma teaching be (as in the second of the three types of wisdom,ie., the wisdom of reflection).

It's kind of a techincal question but I'm just not sure how it would be classified becasue it seems like it could be a body contemplation as in clear comprehension of an activity but it's really something you do with your mind so I am not sure if it could be contemplation of a Dhamma or something?

Thank you

Here one develops the mindfulness factor of enlightenment. When the mindfulness factor of enlightenment is aroused in him the investigation of dhamma factor of enlightenment is aroused in him. When the investigation of dhamma factor of enlightenment is aroused in him he investigates that state with wisdom.

And so on with the 7 factors of enlightenment. That is how in brief.

[Brizzy]

Hi,

I just have a quick question regarding Satipattana. What Satipatthana contemplation would contemplating a Dharma teaching be (as in the second of the three types of wisdom,ie., the wisdom of reflection).

It's kind of a techincal question but I'm just not sure how it would be classified becasue it seems like it could be a body contemplation as in clear comprehension of an activity but it's really something you do with your mind so I am not sure if it could be contemplation of a Dhamma or something?

Thank you

Hi

The word sati is described in the suttas as recollection/remembering. This description occurs several times, no other description of sati is given. Maybe it is actually remembering and contemplating a certain teaching from the suttas - there are so many of them, they must have a use, e.g. nonself, 4 noble truths etc. etc. etc.

[Agent]

The word sati is described in the suttas as recollection/remembering. This description occurs several times, no other description of sati is given. Maybe it is actually remembering and contemplating a certain teaching from the suttas - there are so many of them, they must have a use, e.g. nonself, 4 noble truths etc. etc. etc.

Dmytro recently posted a thread with some extensive info on the term sati that may be of interest:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4299" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[appicchato]

Slightly ...In a recent conversation with Venerable Pannyavaro (Buddhanet creator), his glowing assessment of the book linked below was such that I thought it worth mentioning for those interested...

http://www.amazon.com/Satipatthana-Dire ... 1899579540
http://wanderingdhamma.wordpress.com/20 ... u-analayo/

[Kenshou]

Good book. Anything else I could say would be redundant, but, you should get it. (yes, you!)

[Ben]

Slightly ...In a recent conversation with Venerable Pannyavaro (Buddhanet creator), his glowing assessment of the book linked below was such that I thought it worth mentioning for those interested...

http://www.amazon.com/Satipatthana-Dire ... 1899579540
http://wanderingdhamma.wordpress.com/20 ... u-analayo/

Excellent advice Bhante.
Venerable Analayo's book is an invaluable aid and reference.
kind regards

Ben

[sangyey]

Thank you.

Actually I have been studying Bhikkhu Analayo's book 'Satipattha - the direct path to realization' which was recommended by Bhikkhu Bodhi in one of his online lectures. Yes, it really is an excellent excellent book which has really deepenend my understanding and practice. I haven't finished reading the whole thing yet, however.

It seems then that reflecting on the teachings would be classified as contemplation of Dhammas i.e., investigation of phenomena as someone suggesting in a preceding thread.

[Cittasanto]

Hi,
personally I think whether it this contemplation fell in dhammas or not would depend on the teaching and on how this was implemented.

if the teaching being contemplated was intelectual then certainly it would be dhammas but if it was a teaching on practice it could fall into both dhammas and another tetrad, then solely the other tetrad.