Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby Gregory Wonderwheel » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:55 pm

bodom_bad_boy wrote:
christopher::: wrote:
bodom_bad_boy wrote:Thats awesome! If i wasnt a Theravada Buddhist i would most definitely be a Soto Zen Budhist.


To be honest, maybe its just me, but I have yet to notice any significant difference.

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Just the name. Soto Zen reminds me of the Theravada thai forest traditon without the forest. :lol:

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Did you know that when Bodhidharma came to China he was mistaken for a Thera because of his no frills style of dhyana practice.

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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby Jechbi » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:48 pm

Is it soup yet?
Rain soddens what is kept wrapped up,
But never soddens what is open;
Uncover, then, what is concealed,
Lest it be soddened by the rain.
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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby bodom » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:49 pm

Jechbi wrote:Is it soup yet?


It sure is and it looks great!

http://www.zenforuminternational.org/

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby Jechbi » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:12 pm

I think it's still a sneak-peak version, tho. Just checked and got this msg:
Please be aware that you are getting a "sneak peek" at this new forum focused on Zen Buddhism. We have not officially opened yet and are still polishing it for opening day.

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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby hrtbeat7 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:02 pm

Hi all!

Yes, we are still working out some tech details and so forth, but hope to have things in order for an official opening later this coming week. Thanks to everyone for their support and suggestions, we think of Dhamma Wheel as a sister forum, and especially appreciate the help of Retro in pointing us in the right direction for technical assistance!

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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby christopher::: » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:55 pm

bodom_bad_boy wrote:
Jechbi wrote:Is it soup yet?


It sure is and it looks great!

http://www.zenforuminternational.org/

:namaste:


I love the way the board welcomes you when you come over....

Welcome Anonymous !


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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009
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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby chapulincolorado » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:11 am

:coffee: Excellent work. :namaste:
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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby Annapurna » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:32 am

christopher::: wrote:Just as this issue is coming up here, one of the difficulties we are going to have to work with at our new forum is that there will be ZFI members who have strong negative feelings about E-sangha. There will be moderators as well.

We are going to start with similar terms of service as Dhamma Wheel, but this topic will come up. How to allow conversation and discussion and criticism without stepping over boundaries into wrong speech, animosity and attachment to views?

I don't have an answer to that. We'll have to figure this out as we go along. For myself, personally, I am doing all I can to cultivate positive thoughts and feelings about E-sangha, the place where I met most of my closest online friends.

Sometimes people just need to vent. But if you take the time to reflect on "negative" life experiences there is usually a bit of dharma understanding that can be taken away from every situation. If something happened in your life, there is often a reason, imo.

Something to be learned there.

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Considering the harm others do to you
As created by your former deeds, do not anger.
Act such that further suffering will not be created
And your own faults will disappear.


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Dear Chris,

yes, there are and will be challenges, and once solved, may have to get renegotiated at times.
Just as this issue is coming up here, one of the difficulties we are going to have to work with at our new forum is that there will be ZFI members who have strong negative feelings about E-sangha. There will be moderators as well.


Surely there is also a lesson to be learned....
I'm no exception...!

3-6

'He insulted me,
hit me,
beat me,
robbed me'
— for those who brood on this,
hostility isn't stilled.

'He insulted me,
hit me,
beat me,
robbed me' —
for those who don't brood on this,
hostility is stilled.

How to allow conversation and discussion and criticism without stepping over boundaries into wrong speech, animosity and attachment to views?


I think also critisism can be communicated in this way:

"Monks, a statement endowed with five factors is well-spoken, not ill-spoken. It is blameless & unfaulted by knowledgeable people. Which five?

"It is spoken at the right time. It is spoken in truth. It is spoken affectionately. It is spoken beneficially. It is spoken with a mind of good-will."


This is not easy. Actually, I'm thrilled to scan my posts or speech with this...and so sometimes I say nothing at all, and struggle with my desire to move my mouth.
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Re: Zen Forum International: Coming soon!

Postby christopher::: » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:31 am

Hi Anna :smile:

Indeed, when we take the time to investigate the Buddha's advice comes thru pretty loud and clear about what constitutes right speech. Interestingly, I too have found that it really reduces all vocal critical comments considerably. Much of the time I realize that nothing I had wanted to say really needs to be said.

Quite liberating, if practiced with diligence.
Less mental gunk for us to share with others,
and to carry.

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