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What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

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What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Wind » Sun May 16, 2010 12:49 am

I read the Dhamma that the lay people hear is different than the ones given to bhikkhus. What did the Buddha teach to the lay people?

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby bodom » Sun May 16, 2010 12:54 am

See this thread:

Suttas for the Householder
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=259#p2290

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Wind » Sun May 16, 2010 1:12 am

thanks bodom

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby bodom » Sun May 16, 2010 1:56 am

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Paññāsikhara » Sun May 16, 2010 2:02 am

My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Wind » Sun May 16, 2010 2:11 am

Well said venerable. Sometimes it seems to cause a lot of confusion with the exposure to all the teachings we have available today. I hope one day I can find a teacher who has the ability to understand me well and give me the right instructions that I need to progress.

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Anicca » Sun May 16, 2010 3:50 am

From another perspective - what did the Buddha *not* teach the lay people?

It is said the Buddha taught with an open hand - hiding nothing - this is true regarding the lay people, right?

Monks displaying their knowledge and abilities was another matter though ... (abhiñña)

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby retrofuturist » Sun May 16, 2010 3:59 am

Greetings,

Off the topic of my head I don't recall instances of the Buddha teaching deepened states of concentration to householders.

Does anyone know otherwise?

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby retrofuturist » Sun May 16, 2010 5:28 am

Greetings Mike,

Yes, certainly there's teachings of a vipassana, satipatthana, aggregates, sense base etc. type variety given to householders.

It's more those regarding jhana (rupa / arupa) etc. that I was thinking of.

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Anicca » Sun May 16, 2010 6:15 am

Astus linked to this pdf, which lists suttas depicting lay people accomplished in jhana but not of what the Buddha taught them specifically...

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Sun May 16, 2010 7:58 am

The Buddha taught lay people the 4 noble truths.
He gave 5 precepts to live by.
Some teachings of course do differ.
When being mindful,we are mindful of the present moment and are taught not to think of the future,however, one teaching the Buddha gave to a householder was how to deal with money.
How much should be given away,how much to spend on food etc and how much to put away for the future.
So the teachings are slightly different for lay people and monastics.
The spiritual truths are not different.
Life is suffering,the cause...... :buddha2:
And crawling on the planets face,some insects called the human race.
Lost in time
Lost in space
And meaning

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

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Postby mikenz66 » Sun May 16, 2010 8:44 am

Thanks fig tree!

That's the sutta but I misremembered which Nikaya it was in...

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Paññāsikhara » Sun May 16, 2010 11:57 am

My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: What did the Buddha teach the Lay people?

Postby Lazy_eye » Sun May 16, 2010 6:18 pm

Hi,

Wouldn't understanding of the four noble truths be a prerequisite for stream entry? One would need to know what the Buddha's teachings were in order to confirm their accuracy, right?

Namaste,

LE


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