Did I reach access concentration or what?

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Postby pilgrim » Sun May 23, 2010 11:10 am

The paradox of meditation is that the desire for certain mental states often acts as a hindrance preventing that state from arising. To get that experience again , you need to drop that desire.

I remember reading an a book long ago that a Chinese chan master who lived in the previous century, put some potatoes into a pot to prepare them for boiling. Then he went to meditate for what he thought was a short period. When he came out of meditation, and checked the pot, he found that it was dry and the potatoes had sprouted. :anjali:

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Or maybe he was accessing yogic states that may be interesting and all that but do not equate to the outcomes decribed in the Suttas.
Samadhi states as described in yogic literature involving prolonged periods of being insensate are not the common parlance of the Theravada. And this is the Theravadin meditation forum.

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True, although 'prolonged periods of being insensate' don't have much to do with Zen either. The story is a red herring.

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Perhaps someone had better tell Pinocchios brother..Red Pine the red herring.
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Postby jcsuperstar » Tue May 25, 2010 8:14 am

hmmmm i've had teachers i've gone to after an experience and they just say "oh dont pay any attention to that" or "it's not important" but i think it's because (honestly) they arent experienced enough in meditation to help and i've also gone to other teachers with the same experiences and they'll be like "oh thats piti' or whatever tell me a nifty little story then recommend i just keep practicing see what else happens which gave me confidence in them as meditators who knew what they were talking about since they just knew right off the bat what i was trying to describe and confidence as teachers since they just used that to spring board me back into sitting without letting me get some big head about an experience.
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat


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