Ok. Nanavira vs. Buddhaghosa. I'm rooting for the guy in red.
Seriously--this is over my head. Maybe one of you can clarify?
Fight all you want but let's have some idea of what you are disputing...please?
The One True Dhamma?
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Greetings Alan,
Metta,
Retro.
Well, firstly I'd like to think that it wasn't fighting...alan wrote:Fight all you want but let's have some idea of what you are disputing...please?
It relates to how people approach the Dhamma, and in turn, how people approach discussion on the Dhamma.alan wrote:Seriously--this is over my head. Maybe one of you can clarify?
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Greetings to you Retro and Mike.
I like and respect you both. Discuss all you want.
I'll just have to go and do some research. It's not your job to teach me.
Ok then...
Round 4--go at it!
Edit--they are not fighting. It's a heated discussion.
I like and respect you both. Discuss all you want.
I'll just have to go and do some research. It's not your job to teach me.
Ok then...
Round 4--go at it!
Edit--they are not fighting. It's a heated discussion.
Re: The One True Dhamma?
We are directed to know:retrofuturist wrote:Obviously we want to know what we need to know...
Retro.
Cessation.
The complete cessation of being and becoming is to be known. Directly. We must knowingly, willingly turn consciousness off. Then all Four Noble Truths become obvious.
3. Cessation is known. Therefore, 4. The path to cessation is known. Therefore, 2. Desire, the path to 1. Suffering is known. Suffering is all the qualities of objective experience of being and becoming that arising and passing consciousness in co-dependence with the other aggregate conditions can know.
I hope this cuts through the complications a little.
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But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}
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Thank you Nathan.
I read your most recent posts in the jhana topic and see these words against that context.
Metta,
Retro.
I read your most recent posts in the jhana topic and see these words against that context.
Yes, and anything that does is a blessing.nathan wrote:I hope this cuts through the complications a little.
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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No doubt. Knowing is not having to think about, anymore.retrofuturist wrote:Thank you Nathan.
I read your most recent posts in the jhana topic and see these words against that context.
Yes, and anything that does is a blessing.nathan wrote:I hope this cuts through the complications a little.
Metta,
Retro.
But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}
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nathan wrote:No doubt. Knowing is not having to think about, anymore.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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retrofuturist wrote:
But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}
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Thanks.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Nathan and Retro...
pretty cool
pretty cool
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Sorry guys, nice try, but you're all way off. The one true dhamma has been revealed only to fans of the TV drama Lost....
Also, make sure you get the clock...
And t-shirt...
Also, make sure you get the clock...
And t-shirt...
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009
Re: The One True Dhamma?
What, was it getting a bit too un-nice Chris ?
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No, Peter.PeterB wrote:What, was it getting a bit too un-nice Chris ?
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009
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A better answer would've been:
No, Peter! :cookoo:
(sorry, that wasn't really nice, was it? )
No, Peter! :cookoo:
(sorry, that wasn't really nice, was it? )
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