ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

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ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby cooran » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:24 am

And the point of this thread is ...?

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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Ben » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:35 am

Hi atulo

That is interesting. But I wonder what myriad contexts are absent from that conversation that would throw some light on Ven Nanamoli's observations regarding the Vism. Unlike Namamoli Bhikkhu, I am no scholar nor a Pali language expert.
As a mere practitioner, I have found the Vism to be an incredible resource that has given me insights into the doctrine and practice.
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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:42 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Ben » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:50 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:00 am

Greetings Ben,

Could well be, but it is funny how he slipped his name (Osbert John Salvin Moore) into the Translator's Prefix using the first letter of each sentence. This would suggest that the note is at least authentic and that Bhikkhu Nanamoli kept his sense of humour.

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby atulo » Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:55 pm

When I shared this text with other friends, they fould the passage interesting, so I thought you might like it too. Sorry if it brought some conffusion.
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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby bodom » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:18 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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always centered, the monk
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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby cooran » Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:24 pm

Hello bodom,

The Dalai Lama is alive and can be asked if there is any need to clarify his remarks. This is an undated quote, attributed to someone who is no longer alive. And so, the quote has been published without the permission of the Thera concerned, from what was a personal communication. I don't see any wholesome point behind the posting of this thread.

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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby Zom » Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:28 pm

Very interesting, thank you -)

BTW., I too don't trust commentaries too much... :spy:

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Re: ven. Nanamoli's opinion of Vissudhimagga

Postby bodom » Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:01 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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