Anapanasati sutta - practical application

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Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby Spiny Norman » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:17 am

I've been considering the practical application of the Anapanasati sutta, and the extracted highlights below seem to indicate a progression from samatha to vipassana.
Am I on the right track, and what other ways are there of applying this sutta in terms of practice?

( samatha )
"I shall breath in and out...tranquilising the mental formations...experiencing the mind...gladdening the mind...concentrating the mind."

( vipassana )
"I shall breath in and out...contemplating impermanence...contemplating fading away...comtemplating cessation...contemplating relinquishment."
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Re: Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby Moggalana » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:15 am

Yes, anapanasati can be used to develop both samatha and vipassana. See, for example, Ledi Sayadaw's and Ajahn Brahm's .
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Re: Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:07 am

I recently posted some other links here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4631#p70886 related so a similar question.

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Re: Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby Jack » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:33 pm

I might take each teaching in progression as a meditation intention, i.e., this week I will bring teachings 1 to 3 into each meditation session. Next week I will add 4. And so on, until I cover all 16 teachings in one meditation. Or, I might skip around, i.e., this session I will bring mindfulness of pitti (joy) into my meditation. Next session I might cover awareness of my body.

Buddadasasa Bhikkhu's book, Mindfulness with Breathing, is available on the Internet and is good at applying the Anap. Sutta to meditation sessions.

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Re: Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby Spiny Norman » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:57 am

Thanks for the replies - it looks like I have some reading to do. ;)

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Re: Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:53 am

[quote="Yundi"]
Both 'experiencing' and 'contemplating' involve some kind of vipassana. 'Tranquillising' is samatha.
[quote]

I think that's a good analysis, but in Anapanasati it appears that the breath is always involved - so how would you say that our "relationship" with the breath varies during these activities of experiencing, contemplating and tranquillising?

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Re: Anapanasati sutta - practical application

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:07 pm

Hi Porpoise

Some would say that the anapansati performed in the way instructed in the sutta is a combination of samatha and vipassana. However maybe it is better to simply call it satipatthana and think of samatha and vipassana as a result -you may go into jhana (samatha) and/or gain insight (vipassana), rather than as technique. Suttas say that when performing satipatthana samatha vipassana grows.

Having said all that there is some merit in saying that the two are distinct methods as well

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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