according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

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according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Postby dhammastudier » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:08 am

ACCORDING TO THE PALI CANON, what happens after you die?

obviously we all know the over all idea of karma affecting one's rebirth. you die and are reborn in one of six realms in such and such conditions depending on your merit. as far as my studies have gone, in a nutshell, this is all that was said on the topic.

did the buddha ever say what the process was between the moment of death and the moment of birth?

again as far as i know he did not, which in my opinion, would imply that one is instantaneously transferred from one's dead body to an awaiting fetus or egg/sperm combo.

does anyone know any more about this?

P.S. also i know what other traditions say happens between this life and the next. there are some really cool teachings about it that are mind blowing and a little scary. i've read many books on the subject that were, to my great delight, better than some non-buddhist fictional novels and movies i've known on the topic of death and the afterlife! if you know about these things, it's not necessary to try to school me on them. like i said, i already know about them. i always wondered if even a granule of any of it came from the buddha himself as, if it did, i might want to practice some lucid dreaming techniques to prepare a little;)

if you don't know about the after death stuff from other traditions, by all means ask me and i'll tell you about them and recommend some good books! super cool stuff regardless of where they came from!

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Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

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Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Postby cooran » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:16 am

Hello zac,

I think a better question is "What is it which re-becomes?" "You" are not reborn.

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Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Postby cooran » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:42 am

Hello all,

A few articles by Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi:

Does Rebirth Make Sense? - Bhikkhu Bodhi
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ay_46.html

Rebirth - Bhikhu Bodhi
http://www.beyondthenet.net/dhamma/rebirth.htm

Dhamma without Rebirth - Bhikkhu Bodhi
http://www.vipassana.com/resources/bodh ... ebirth.php

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Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

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Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Postby Anicca » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:40 pm

Rebirth / rebecoming is not the issue, the "you" is the issue - what is "it" the re-becomes or what is "it" that gets reborn because "it" is not "you" - that would be re-incarnation which if any learned teacher of Buddhism uses - run the other way!

At least that is my understanding - hope it helps


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Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Postby dhammastudier » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:49 pm

i definitely didn't say "re-incarnation" and on a buddhist web site i don't think anyone is going to confuse this with hinduism or anything else that teaches re-incarnation just because i used a word like "it" or "you" or "rebirth" (which many buddhist authors use). you guys think a small grammatical error makes my post sound like it's talking about re-incarnation and the author agent just referenced literally used the term "re-incarnation" but no one noticed?

but oh well, nit picking is fun for some. but to be fair this debate over petty semantics is :offtopic: and it would be nice to get back to talking about what the buddha taught on the topic :smile:

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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