What do you sit on?

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What do you sit on?

Postby bodom » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:38 pm

For me i sit on a zabuton with a cushion on top being either an old army blanket for the most part but lately been using a zafu as i find it gives me more back support and sometimes i use a seiza bench when sitting for long periods of time. What do you use?
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby jcsuperstar » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:47 pm

i used to use a zafu, now just the floor or a small square thai meditation mat
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby bodom » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:50 pm

jcsuperstar wrote:i used to use a zafu, now just the floor or a small square thai meditation mat


Thats old school. Taking in back to the Buddhas days. :lol:

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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby bodom » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:51 pm

Im slowly easing myself away from the sitting supports to the floor. I need to strengthen my lower back.

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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby mountain » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:56 pm

BBB,
Have you tried the buckwheat hull filled zafu. Some friends whose tailbone gave them problems during long sits found the alternative more comfortable than the kapok filled. A particularly nasty encounter with ideopathic neuropathy ended my sitting on the floor.
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby bodom » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:00 pm

mountain wrote:BBB,
Have you tried the buckwheat hull filled zafu. Some friends whose tailbone gave them problems during long sits found the alternative more comfortable than the kapok filled. A particularly nasty encounter with ideopathic neuropathy ended my sitting on the floor.
John


Mountain, yes that is what i am currently sitting on. It is very supportive but i find i feel more balanced sitting closer to the floor and will try to ease myself off of it. It would be nice to learn to sit on the floor without having to drag my zafu everywhere with me when i could just sit on the floor!

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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby Jechbi » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:41 pm

Started with a whole beanbag, because I could form it to support my lower back and legs. But after some time I realized I didn't need lower back support, so I used a cheap old couch cushion instead.

The cheap old couch cushion turned into a pancake after a few weeks, because the stuffing was inferior. I turned a few couch cushions into pancakes, then looked around and settled on a Salubrion chair, which offered exactly the right tilt for my body form. But I still had to put a small cushion on top of it, because otherwise it was too hard on my butt. I used my pancakes for that.

Since then I've settled on a nice round cushion filled with natural ingredients. Works fine. I'll usually shove a wadded towel or thin blanket or something under my right leg, because the knee still hovers above floor-level, although the left knee touches down. I find that anything that elevates my butt about 2-3 inches off the floor is enough to allow my back to achieve a natural straight posture. I can do straight on the floor, but it's not really ideal for my body form.

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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby clw_uk » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:49 pm

Ive got the Buckwheat Zafu as well, my practice has really kicked off since ive got it, really supports my back.
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby bodom » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:04 pm

clw_uk wrote:Ive got the Buckwheat Zafu as well, my practice has really kicked off since ive got it, really supports my back.


As Ajahn Brahm in Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond said "The purpose of posture is only to free you from discomfort so that you can let go of the body as soon as possible."

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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby clw_uk » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:07 pm

As Ajahn Brahm in Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond said "The purpose of posture is only to free you from discomfort so that you can let go of the body as soon as possible."


Good quote, the position i was in before would be painful after about ten minutes but with the zafu and new sitting position my mindfulness now has time to strenghten so when pain comes it doesnt effect my practice anymore.
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby puthujjana » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:34 pm

I sit on a folded blanket.
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby Ben » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:48 pm

When I was doing a 20-day retreat in New Zealand a few years ago, the guy in the next cell, an ex-pat German, was sitting on a folded blanket!
For me, I am getting closer to the ground. I use an Afghan prayer mat and on top of that a futon-style cushion that is nearly squashed flat. I sometimes fold the cushion over to try and elevate my backside so as to sit in half-lotus for extended periods. But with all the moving and unpacking lately, my left knee is giving me some trouble.
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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby AdvaitaJ » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:04 am

I used to use the buckwheat zafu/zabuton combination, but my left leg invariably gave out after 20-30 minutes. I jogged about 15 or so miles each week back then (late last summer/fall) and I think that contributed through a combination of things. I now use a seiza bench I made from plans I found online. I put the zabuton on the floor and I made the bench long (wide?) enough so the legs just clear the zabuton. Now I'm good for almost an hour, mostly pain free. :meditate: Sometimes I have trouble with one of my knees and I'll go back to the zafu for a session. It seems better now than last year, but still nowhere near as good as the bench.

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Re: What do you sit on?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:22 am

i sit on a mushroom stool with a padded seat, home made
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