CLeansing and detox to go deeper

[VanCitySean]

Hey guys,

I have a roommate who is a vipassnna meditator and he has done a master cleanse
detox and he says that he can go alot deeper to the enlightened state when
he cleanses,

so i have been contemplating taking on a cleanse to detox my body,

i am thinking about master cleanse but i like to know if there is a recommended cleanse
by the vipassna community and if buddist have a special cleanse ?

i have been a vegiterian for about 2 months now... eating no meat.


like to know your thoughts

[tiltbillings]

i am thinking about master cleanse but i like to know if there is a recommended cleanse
by the vipassna community and if buddist have a special cleanse ?

No.

[bodom]

i am thinking about master cleanse but i like to know if there is a recommended cleanse
by the vipassna community and if buddist have a special cleanse?

Only to cleanse your mind of greed, hatred and delusion.

[Goofaholix]

"go alot deeper to the enlightened state" doesn't sound like something a vipassana meditator would say, unless he misunderstands what the practice is about.

I notice when I fast that sensations in the body are stronger, and my awareness a little more vivid. I do believe after a few days when the the sensations from toxins subside that one would have an enhanced ability to concentrate but I've only ever fasted for 2-4 days at a time so haven't experienced this.

I don't think there is a recommended cleanse in vipassana circles, I don't recall hearing a teacher ever recommending going on a cleanse.

[PeterB]

Thankfully the Theravada is free from the kind of psuedo science and body fascism that gives rise to nonsense like the concept of detoxing. Which doesnt mean that all of its adherents have escaped being brainwashed by such notions. Whatever your friend is experiencing VanCitySean you can be fairly sure it has nothing to do with Enlightenment as taught by the Buddha.

[tiltbillings]

Thankfully the Theravada is free from the kind of psuedo science and body fascism that gives rise to nonsense like the concept of detoxing. Which doesnt mean that all of its adherents have escaped being brainwashed by such notions. Whatever your friend is experiencing VanCitySean you can be fairly sure it has nothing to do with Enlightenment as taught by the Buddha.

As is said in Hatha Yoga: If the colon is right the mind is right.

[jcsuperstar]

oh come on peter, who doesn't like a good wheat grass enema before they meditate? really helps cleanse the aura and get the chakras lined up and spinning!

[PeterB]

Well there you go. Cancel that Vipassana retreat and invest instead into a big bag of bran..
" Throw out those old fusty Dhamma books, know the complete freedom of the Cacayana "

[retrofuturist]

The only cleansing and detox is sila and precept observance.



Metta,
Retro.

[tiltbillings]

chakras lined up and spinning!

[tiltbillings]

Cacayana "

It uses the Septic System.

[tiltbillings]

A pause while we move to the lounge.

[tiltbillings]

Apologies to the OP, but this just one of those subjects that invites the inner 13 year-old boys to emerge.

While a healthy body is generally important, the sort of bodily concerns of detoxing, etc, are not part of the traditional vipassana tradition.

[alan]

It's true the OP was kind of silly.
However..,
Yoga and rigorous exercise, along with proper nutrition, contribute to a healthier body and a clearer mind.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.

[tiltbillings]

It's true the OP was kind of silly.
However..,
Yoga and rigorous exercise, along with proper nutrition, contribute to a healthier body and a clearer mind.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.

I don't think that is really contested. What is contested is that a clean colon will lead to deeper insight by virtue of being clean.

[PeterB]

I have no doubt that a good balanced diet with lots of fresh fruit and veg and water will contribute to a more positive and relaxed attitude to life. including practice.
However there are people who ignore all of that. One very experienced Vipassana practitioner I knew appeared to live solely on bacon sandwiches.
He beamed compassion and wisdom.
Of course it killed him in the end , he was only about 83 when he died....
He was known as Arthur the Arahant..I don't think he was literally an Arahant but he certainly was a better Dhamma person than me..

[Kenshou]

I knew bacon was good, but not that good.

[tiltbillings]

I knew bacon was good, but not that good.

Just don't feed it to pigs.

[phil]

If you'll forgive a little Thich Nhat Hahn, he once said that if you are feeling depressed, it's probably due to something you've eaten, and I generally find that's true. Of course that is referring to all the senses. In a sense, the Buddha was a great dietician, urging us to be very attentive to what we consume through the six senses, and I find his training is definitely akin to cleansing and detox、at least at the level of the gross defilements.

[Potato]

The master cleanse can actually interfere with the proper functioning of the liver and kidneys. It is not recommended by real doctors.