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Luminious mind

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism
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Re: Luminious mind

Postby bodom » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:15 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Luminious mind

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Sherab » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:58 pm

So the Buddha was making statements that he knew nobody can understand even intellectually except through insight? Was the Buddha's action meaningless then?

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Mawkish1983 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:14 am

The Buddha's actions were not meaningless :)

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Re: Luminious mind

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:27 am

why would they be (meaningless)? the Buddha gave instruction on how to gain insight, so the fault is not that of the Buddha but of those who haven't put those instruction to use.
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Virgo » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:35 am

Even if people can only understand them through insight, stating these things was not meaningless in the slightest because it could inspire people to gain that insight. Nothing the Buddha does is meaningless.

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Re: Luminious mind

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:23 am

when reading a sutta it is helpful to look at who the sutta is being given to. maybe its being given to monks with insight, maybe to a farmer with no understanding of the dhamma at all. the dhamma was given by the Buddha to different people at different times with different understandings and abilities, maybe this is something you just don't understand yet.
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Sherab » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:04 am

Of course the Buddha gave teachings according to the capacity of the audience or recipient. But this does not answer my question about inspiration isn't it?

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Sherab » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:07 am

This thread is getting nowhere. Time to kill it.
Thanks everyone for your participation.

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:47 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Sherab » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:02 am

Scientific ideas can be understood intellectually.
Certain utterance of Buddha's cannot be understood without having insight - that's the point that some people here tried to make. My point is that there is no point in making statements that only people who already have insight can understand because if they already have the insight, the utterances served no purpose.
Let's end this meaningless discussion. Thank you.

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Re: Luminious mind

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:27 pm

I never found the "luminous mind" references all that murky, especially when the various references are brought together. They seem to describe the qualities of a mind unsullied by defilements. Like scraping mud from a backlit window: perception shines through without obstruction.

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby Mawkish1983 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:32 pm

Sherab, what is insight?

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Re: Luminious mind

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Re: Luminious mind

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:19 am

- Peter


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