A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

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A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby 8fold » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:40 pm

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

I'm trying to read this sutta. From the six paragraph, can some one tell me what the following means:

And what is wrong view? 'There is nothing given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions. There is no this world, no next world, no mother, no father, no spontaneously reborn beings; no priests or contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is wrong view.

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Is the above saying that it is wrong view to believe that there are no enlightened people?

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:13 am

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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:15 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:26 am

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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:49 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

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Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:52 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby 8fold » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:10 pm

Thank you, everybody. It'll take me some time to read through the links, but thanks.

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Re: A little help: Maha-cattarisaka Sutta: The Great Forty

Postby Sunrise » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:57 pm

One more thing, the translation says next world here, which is best taken as other worlds.

Paraloka would mean other worlds rather than next world.

Para - Others

Loka - worlds


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