What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

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What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Wind » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:04 am

What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana? How are they relate to one another?

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby bodom » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:12 am

Please See:

The Jhanas in Theravada Buddhist Meditation by Henepola Gunaratana

Scroll down to the Jhana and Samadhi heading.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org:80/lib/a ... html#ch1.3

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Wind » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:36 am

thanks bodom

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:38 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Wind » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:14 am

You guys are funny. :lol:

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:19 am

see i never see this attack on jhana that people complain about, i hear a lot about people saying they're attacked, but never see , hear these attacks. jhana is awesome, i say go for it.
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Kenshou » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:25 am

I wouldn't touch this thread with a ten yojana long pole, har.

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Wind » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:58 am

Since people tend to doubt those who says they achieve jhana, do people doubt those who says they achieve Samadhi? I would like to know if anyone here achieve Samadhi? If so, can you describe what's it like?

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby IanAnd » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:08 am

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby rowyourboat » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:25 am

samadhi is quality of the mind which is be developed gradually, progressively. (like hight of a building in meters)
jhana is a state of mind/being that arises as a result of development of samadhi (3rd floor, 4rth floor)
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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Wind » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:32 am

thanks Anicca for your excellent description of Samadhi. I still wonder how many here has personally achieve it. If there are many here who can achieve Samadhi then I would know it's quite attainable unlike jhana where it's seem like an improbable task.

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby Kenshou » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:53 am

That's one of those questions you aren't going to get a conclusive answer to. There are as many different ideas about what constitutes actual samadhi or jhana as there are people on this forum, and for every person saying they can, they'll be someone saying that they're probably wrong. It's just one of those tricky subjects. :juggling: Go read alotta suttas and do alotta sitting and decide for yourself.

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Re: What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

Postby jcsuperstar » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:32 am

I'm not sure there is really anyone who really thinks jhana cant be attained, i think the argument is against those who think they can meditate 20mins or so a day while living a life not bound by the precepts and still achieve jhana. there is a huge difference. this is why "vipassana" meditation is pushed so much, you can see things as they are right now, there is no need to sit for hours a day etc. insight cant be gained in the midst of daily life. so this jhana without the hard work comes off to many as similar to those adds that tell you you can just take a pill and lose 50 pounds or whatever.
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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