In search of a noble teacher.

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In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Wind » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:11 am

Hi everyone

I have decided to seriously search for a noble teacher to possibly be ordain under. So I was wondering if anyone could recommend a highly regarded teacher? I prefer a teacher in the Thai forest tradition who can speak fluent English. I am also open to any noble teacher from Sri Lanka as well.

Thanks for your help

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Goedert » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:09 pm

Friend,

Bhante G, at West Virginia in USA.

His monostery website is:

http://www.bhavanasociety.org/
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:26 pm

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby _Daniel_ » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:38 pm

rowyourboat wrote:Ven Dhammajiva, Sri Lanka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissarana_Vanaya


hello rowyourboat, do you know that monastery? have you been there? I am looking for a monastery to do a 3-4 weeks retreat to learn and practise more things about buddhism, and I like this place, but I don't see any email or address to contact with this monastery, could you help me with it? Thank You.
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby bodom » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:12 pm

Abhayagiri Buddhist Monastery

Buddhist monastery in the Thai Forest Sangha tradition of Ajahn Chah and Ajahn Sumedho.

http://www.abhayagiri.org/

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:48 pm

Ajahn Amaro. Chithurst Forest Monastery UK.
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Wind » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:58 am

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I will look up each and everyone one of them and learn more about them. :)
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby rowyourboat » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:59 am

_Daniel_ wrote:
rowyourboat wrote:Ven Dhammajiva, Sri Lanka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissarana_Vanaya


hello rowyourboat, do you know that monastery? have you been there? I am looking for a monastery to do a 3-4 weeks retreat to learn and practise more things about buddhism, and I like this place, but I don't see any email or address to contact with this monastery, could you help me with it? Thank You.


Hi Daniel,

It might be best to just call them up on their phone line (Tel:0094 602 339 193) and speak to someone. Alternatively (or in addition) If you could send me some details about yourself and what you want to do I can pass it on to Ven Dhammajiva, who will get back to you on it. (please email me on 'matheeshag'at'hotmail.com)

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby appicchato » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:40 pm

The OP is looking for a 'Noble Teacher'...and good luck to him/her...although (my) reality compels me to say that all of the subsequent 'recommendations' will not give (what I consider to be) the desired outcome...the people mentioned give talks but not the personalized instruction that I get the feeling the OP is looking for...in fact it would be difficult to find any 'name' that does...if asked I would recommend reading the Suttas and go with the Noblest Teacher from the git go...just a bit of reflection from personal observation...
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:46 pm

Ajahn Amaro has just taken over as Abbott of Chithurst and part of his remit will certainly entail preparing people for ordination.
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Anicca » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:03 pm

Howdy Bhante Appicchato!
appicchato wrote:if asked I would recommend reading the Suttas and go with the Noblest Teacher from the git go...just a bit of reflection from personal observation...


Just to clarify - the Noblest Teacher being the Dhamma?

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby andrewuk » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:50 pm

Sanghamitta wrote:Ajahn Amaro has just taken over as Abbott of Chithurst and part of his remit will certainly entail preparing people for ordination.


Hello,

I think Ajahn Amaro is the new abbot of Amaravati Monastery... Not Chithurst :-)

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:52 pm

andrewuk wrote:I think Ajahn Amaro is the new abbot of Amaravati Monastery... Not Chithurst :-)

Yes, see here: http://forestsangha.org/index.php?optio ... g&Itemid=8
Change of abbot at Amaravati
Saturday, 01 May 2010 07:40

In early April 2010 senior members of the Forest Sangha associated with the monasteries in Europe met at Amaravati for their usual annual gathering. From 6–10 April, 21 theras and 6 theris (monks and nuns respectively of over 10 years training) conducted mixed and separate meetings to address community business.

One of the most important items was a formal announcement by Luang Por Sumedho of his intention to retire from being abbot at Amaravati. Luang Por had earlier expressed his wish that Ajahn Amaro from Abhayagiri Monastery in California (who attended these meetings) take up the role of abbot following his own departure at the end of this year. After meeting with the monks and nuns at Amaravati and with the Elders’ Council, Ajahn Amaro was heartily welcomed to take up Luang Por’s invitation, and it was agreed that he will become the new abbot at Amaravati.

It is Luang Por Sumedho's wish initially to return to live in Thailand, probably at Wat Nong Pah Pong. He plans to depart soon after this year's Kathina at Amaravati on 14th November. For further information please see www.amaravati.org


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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:23 am

Greetings,

appicchato wrote:if asked I would recommend reading the Suttas and go with the Noblest Teacher from the git go...just a bit of reflection from personal observation...

:goodpost:

The Buddha is cool.

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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Wind » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:55 am

appicchato wrote:The OP is looking for a 'Noble Teacher'...and good luck to him/her...although (my) reality compels me to say that all of the subsequent 'recommendations' will not give (what I consider to be) the desired outcome...the people mentioned give talks but not the personalized instruction that I get the feeling the OP is looking for...in fact it would be difficult to find any 'name' that does...if asked I would recommend reading the Suttas and go with the Noblest Teacher from the git go...just a bit of reflection from personal observation...


You are right Bhante. That's exactly the type of teacher I am looking for. I know it is hard to find such noble teacher so I have always depended on my suttas for guidance. But I believe a noble one exist today, so I hope to find such teacher who can give me personal instructions.
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby appicchato » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:36 am

Anicca wrote:Just to clarify - the Noblest Teacher being the Dhamma?

To me the Buddha is the Noblest Teacher, but as he re-discovered the Dhamma and that is what he taught, I guess you could say that...
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Anicca » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:03 am

Thank you, Bhante Appicchato!
appicchato wrote:I guess you could say that...

I guess the Buddha said as much in DN 16 - the Maha-parinibbana Sutta:
So you should train yourselves: 'We will keep practicing the Dhamma in accordance with the Dhamma, we will keep practicing masterfully, we will live in accordance with the Dhamma.That's how you should train yourselves."


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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Sanghamitta » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:56 am

andrewuk wrote:
Sanghamitta wrote:Ajahn Amaro has just taken over as Abbott of Chithurst and part of his remit will certainly entail preparing people for ordination.


Hello,

I think Ajahn Amaro is the new abbot of Amaravati Monastery... Not Chithurst :-)

Metta.

Andrew

Sorry slip of the typing finger..thanks for the correction. :embarassed: .
Anyway Wind, a Noble Teacher In the Forest Tradition who speaks fluent English, he IS English, part of whose remit will be to train those who profess an interest in ordination.
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby Goofaholix » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:24 am

Are you suggesting that some teachers are ignoble and you want to avoid them?

The best way to decide which teacher you want to stay with long term is to go and spend a few weeks or months on retreat with any or all teachers that might interest you until you find one you want to stay with.

Most people have had more than one teacher and you can learn a lot by learning from any and every teacher. It's good to find one you really want to stay with long term but it doesn't always happen like that so in the words of the song "if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with".
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Re: In search of a noble teacher.

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:43 am

Good points Goofaholix,

There are many teachers out there. A few are famous, but that doesn't mean that the others are worthless. And as has already been mentioned, it's unlikely you'll be able to get a lot of personal attention from a famous teacher. (Not that it's not worthwhile to have such contact if you have the opportunity, of course.)

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