Levels of Compassion?

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Levels of Compassion?

Postby AdvaitaJ » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:38 am

It occurred to me a few weeks ago reading a thread Retro started, that I probably have a compassion problem. Then again tonight, I was confronted with a situation that has made clear to me that I have more compassion for small animals than adult human strangers. Children? I'm there, how can I help. Small animals? What's needed. But adult human-type people I don't know? Forget about it. Everybody gets what they deserve. As you sow, so shall ye reap, etc. If something bad happened to them, they probably did something (stupid or otherwise) to deserve it.

More and more, I'm thinking this is going to be perhaps the most challenging area for my practice. On the other hand, if I feel I know you, even a little, I'm likely to be on your side. We'll work it out, find an answer, etc. There are people I know that I've written off for a variety of reasons, but generally, if I get to know you, there's some compassion there if needed. Is this the problem I think it is or am I making a mountain out of a mole-hill?

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby mountain » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:03 am

Friend,
I take karuna to be linked with prajna. Each one supports the other. I would like people to extend compassion towards me when mistakes I make show I am influenced by the three poisons and so would extend the same to others. On a very personal note I have always had distaste for social conformity. I live in a small town which is quite rigid in its reaction to social independence. So that is my challange. Hope this may help.
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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby genkaku » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:08 am

Dear AdvaitaJ -- Would you say a little about what you -- you personally -- think compassion is?
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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby Ben » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:58 am

Hi AdvaitaJ

Compassion, like wisdom, needs to be cultivated!
Do you practice Metta Bhavana on a daily basis? If not, I recommend making it part of your practice. One method I heard about from a friend was an instruction from a monk who said that when you start practicing Metta Bhavana, as your object, start to focus on a small cuddly furry animal like a puppy or a kitten. Then, follow the formula of your choice. For a lot of people it is to focus on oneself then those closest and dearest and thn moving outwards to those who we don't know but are indifferent and those we know but have aversion towards.
When you practce Metta Bhavana, be sure to try and generate all of the four qualities of metta (loving kindness), karuna (compassion), upekka (equanimity) and mudita (sympathetic joy).
All the best with your practice AdvaitaJ, please let us know how you go.
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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:21 am

Greetings,

I wholeheartedly concur with Ben's recommendation.

Another thing I have found useful is to contemplate that my happiness is no more important than anyone else's happiness... it's merely self-interest that makes it seem so. Understanding this it's easier to have empathy for others and to realise that everyone prefers happiness to sadness, anger or frustration.

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby AdvaitaJ » Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:11 am

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby Annapurna » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:05 am

You're welcome, Advaita.

A thought that arose upon reading your reply to me was:

Is a slight touch of anger at humans the soil from which your sentiments arise ?

Like, let's say, you felt wronged, somehow, by some humans, whilst small animals never hurt you but made you happy?

Then I think your emotions are very understandable. :hug:

Of course I'm just speculating and you may not wish to share privacy.

Then just ignore this..... :namaste:

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby Ben » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:34 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby Will » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:37 am

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Levels of Compassion?

Postby AdvaitaJ » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:49 pm

The birds have vanished down the sky. Now the last cloud drains away.
We sit together, the mountain and me, until only the mountain remains.
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Re: Levels of Compassion?

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