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Nagarjuna and Theravada

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Nagarjuna and Theravada

Postby clw_uk » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:37 pm

I have just come accross the works of Nagarjuna and find him most wise and his work very insightful.

My question is more directed to those familliar with his work, are his teachings on emptiness and paticcasamuppāda in line with Theravada interpretations (i know they differ on the three lives model).

Does he stray to far from the Buddhas teachings in elaboration or does he keep in line with them?

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Re: Nagarjuna and Theravada

Postby clw_uk » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:06 pm

Thanks Tiltbillings, interesting document
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Re: Nagarjuna and Theravada

Postby Aloka » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:54 pm

Hi Craig,

I've studied and practiced Tibetan Buddhism almost exclusively in the past and am only just recently looking into Theravada more, so I can't answer your question.
However, If you are interested in Nagarjuna's Mulamadhhyamakakarika then perhaps you might like to have a look at ''The Sun of Wisdom'' which is a commentary by Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamptso on the main verses in the root text.

http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=11031" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:35 pm

"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:41 pm

"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: Nagarjuna and Theravada

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:54 pm

An interesting and probably worthwhile book on Theravada (or probably more correctly, the Pali suttas) and Nagarjuna is David Kalpahana's NAGARJUNA: The Philosophy of the Middle Way. This book is a translation of Nagarjuna's central text, the Mula. Tibetan type hate the book, which probably speaks well of it. The translation, while not perfect is good and the commentary is interesting, often referencing the Pali suttas.

But for me, the Theravada/Pali suttas do not need Nagarjuna.

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"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: Nagarjuna and Theravada

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:00 am

not sure if this helps but a couple years ago thanisarro wrote something about the theravada version of emptiness and how it was superior to the mahayana understanding.. it was in one of the big buddhist mags, maybe someone knows what im talking about?
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