kidd wrote:There is no benefit in giving up natural and normal human desires; the benefit, the human benefit, comes from giving up cravings; lust, greed, and the like.
What's the difference between "natural and normal human desires" and "cravings; lust, greed, and the like"?
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
kidd wrote:There is no benefit in giving up natural and normal human desires; the benefit, the human benefit, comes from giving up cravings; lust, greed, and the like.
What's the difference between "natural and normal human desires" and "cravings; lust, greed, and the like"?
Metta,
Retro.
hi retrofuturist,
Natural and normal human desires include, for example, the desires for shelter, clothing, food and medicine; lust is, for example, craving sexual relations with the spouses of others; greed is, for example, craving monetary gain without regard to what it may cost others.
So your definition of grasping rules out lust for your spouse, or for legitimately gained food, cars, etc? Can you reconcile this with the Buddha's definitions given, for example, above at: http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2296#p31814" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?
1;What now is the sense-clinging? Whatever with regard to sense-objects there exists of sense-lust, sense-desire, sense-attachment, sense-passion, sense-confusedness, sense-mental chains: this is called sense-clinging.
Chains many of us have known far too well. Sometimes it seems like one needs to dive deep, hit bottom, to break free...
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)." ~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009
Life is a movement, a flow. Believing we are the controller is grasping. Allowing life (which includes all 'my' feelings thoughts and actions) to express itself in the clear light of awareness is non grasping.
