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Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth": - Dhamma Wheel

Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

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Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Poll ended at Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:10 am

Abhinibbatti
1
8%
Punabbhava
7
58%
Upapannā
1
8%
Opapātikā
0
No votes
Upapajjati
0
No votes
Upatti
0
No votes
Sopapajjati
0
No votes
Jati
1
8%
Additional words; please specify
1
8%
None of the above; please specify
1
8%
 
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Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby Sobeh » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:10 am

I came by this list on another forum, and thought to ask the question here.

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:38 am

You forgot "all of the above." :tongue:

But I think Punabbhava is probably best, so chose that one.
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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby Sobeh » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:47 am

You can pick multiple... and re-vote! I set it up to be very user-friendly.

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:07 am

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby Will » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:50 am

The dictionary mentions patisandhi also.
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby fabianfred » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:49 am

I believe the word differs depending upon which realm you are being reborn into...

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:53 am

I like this topic already. :D

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby PeterB » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:03 am

Oh yes indeedy ! Thats more like it..

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:50 am

Greetings,

I'm not entirely sure, so I'd value a second and third opinion here, but I think the words above (or at least, those I recognise) are actions (kamma), whereas what the English word "rebirth" commonly points to is not a volitional action itself, but the consequence of past volitional action.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby Sobeh » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:48 pm

If that was the case, Retro, mightn't we have the Pali? Without it, I hear you claiming that rebirth is inferred from the Suttas, as opposed to declared in the Suttas, so I must be missing something (or not...).

Is it similar to Sankhara perhaps, where the word refers to the cause, effect, and process all in one?

And what of fabianfred's comment on the word used being indicative of the destination?

My own comment at this point is: without the word jati in the Pali term, the translation "re-birth" is simply wrong. Is this a matter of my ignorance of Pali?

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Re: Which word is the Pali word for "rebirth":

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:02 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine


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