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People will want to be right all the time ...

Most people cling to views ...

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I think that the idea of "slacking off" would not even cross a sotapanna's mind....except perhaps as a joke!!!!! I think the concept of "sotapanna" is based on a person reaching a point where it is "damn the iceburgs....full speed ahead!!!!!.....that's what conquering doubt about the dhamma does for you.....I guess....
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A sotapanna has unshakeable faith in the Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha. If a person would come along and say there is no Buddha, Dhamma or Sangha, and threatened to kill him if he did not agree, the stream enterer will not budge...he rather die. Stream enterers are not like worldlings who are dirt cheap abundant in the triple world. Besides they are unlikely to advertise "I am a stream enterer, know this" First we must get our facts right about Sotapannas, true ariyas.....so how common are stream enterers?

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To one who has grasped and realized Anatta, he will not react "He rather die". Even if the Citta were to arise with the thought, he will just observe and watch it dissolved and without reacting to it.

Just like a Bodhisattva will seek to become a Buddha if there's no more beings to be saved. But to a ripen conditions of Bodhisattva, whereby Anatta/Sunyata is well grasped, there's indifference as to being still suffer or not.

Achieving to this status is rare and need stringent cultivation of the 8 fold Noble path along with Vipaasana, where Wisdom and Compassion comes hand in hand.

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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Thanks jcsuperstar. Odd jumble there...looks like it's temporary abandonment for sotapatti.

At your accesstoinsight link: "Comy. repeatedly stresses that wherever in our text "abandoning" is mentioned, reference is to the non-returner (anagami); for also in the case of defilements overcome on stream-entry (see above), the states of mind which produce those defilements are eliminated only by the path of non-returning."

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"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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