I'm trying to search a suitable place to ordain and live as a monk.
The type of meditation teaching I'm seeking is samatha-vipassana, in a way that they cannot be separated.
Any one know a place, excluding Wat Pah Nanachat, that is a Forest Monastery and hold this type of meditation instruction?
Would like to see adress to send a letter or telephone. Thanks for every one who give your time to answer.
Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
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This monk's view, while not shared by all, if any, is that you're more apt to get more 'instruction' reading, and putting to practice, the wealth of information available on the internet than in any temple in either Thailand, or Sri Lanka…wishing you well...
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Re: Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
I'd have to agree, there is a weird idea that monasteries are some sort of monk college. which i guess would be nice, maybe for some, but in reality this isn't the case at all.appicchato wrote:This monk's view, while not shared by all, if any, is that you're more apt to get more 'instruction' reading, and putting to practice, the wealth of information available on the internet than in any temple in either Thailand, or Sri Lanka…wishing you well...
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I'd have to agree. You get plenty of instruction in Burma though, but not always in a way that understands how westerners think.appicchato wrote:This monk's view, while not shared by all, if any, is that you're more apt to get more 'instruction' reading, and putting to practice, the wealth of information available on the internet than in any temple in either Thailand.
Having said that instruction isn't so much what it's all about, you need it to get started but then I think it's living in a supportive environment and living a supportive lifestyle that's important.
If it's instruction you want and the ability to talk through issues with a teacher, doing retreats in the west, probably with lay teachers, is the way to go.
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“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
Re: Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
The OP wishes to ordain . You can't do that thru the Net.
You can try Pa auk monastery in Myanmar
http://www.paauk.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or Na-Uyana in Sri Lanka
Na-Uyana Aranya, Pansiyagama 60554, Sri Lanka
Actually, I'm quite surprised that anyone here would discourage one from ordaining. Isn't that akusala?
You can try Pa auk monastery in Myanmar
http://www.paauk.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or Na-Uyana in Sri Lanka
Na-Uyana Aranya, Pansiyagama 60554, Sri Lanka
Actually, I'm quite surprised that anyone here would discourage one from ordaining. Isn't that akusala?
Re: Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
Personally would recommend Na Uyana in Sri Lanka over Pa Auk FM in Burma.
Na Uyana has excellent support, they take care of all foreign monks' passports, foods good, great solitude, and you have freedom to practice your own method of meditation IF you want. There's a good number of western monks there and they have a good library. The medical & dental support is a world above what you'll get in Burma, and for monks it is free.
Not trying to put you off Pa Auk in Burma, but it does have a reputation for malaria and the medical care you will get in Burma is not great, even by Asian standards.
metta
Jack
Na Uyana has excellent support, they take care of all foreign monks' passports, foods good, great solitude, and you have freedom to practice your own method of meditation IF you want. There's a good number of western monks there and they have a good library. The medical & dental support is a world above what you'll get in Burma, and for monks it is free.
Not trying to put you off Pa Auk in Burma, but it does have a reputation for malaria and the medical care you will get in Burma is not great, even by Asian standards.
metta
Jack
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
Path Press - Ñāṇavīra Thera Dhamma Page - Ajahn Nyanamoli's Dhamma talks
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
Path Press - Ñāṇavīra Thera Dhamma Page - Ajahn Nyanamoli's Dhamma talks
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Didn't see that myself…basically, wanting to ordain and live as a monk, and 'seeking samatha-vipassana, in a way that they cannot be separated' are two different endeavors…there being tens of thousands of temples in the countries mentioned, ordaining is not a problem…finding the specific instruction he's looking for is another matter...pilgrim wrote:The OP wishes to ordain . You can't do that thru the Net.
Actually, I'm quite surprised that anyone here would discourage one from ordaining. Isn't that akusala?
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Can foreigners still stay gain visas to stay long-term in Myanmar? If so, I like the look of Pa Auk - Just the first instruction for meditators warms my heart: Respect everyone.
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Yes. Right now you might have difficulty staying in a centre on a tourist visa so definately get a meditation visa.shjohnk wrote:Can foreigners still stay gain visas to stay long-term in Myanmar? If so, I like the look of Pa Auk - Just the first instruction for meditators warms my heart: Respect everyone.
Pronouns (no self / not self)
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
Re: Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
appicchato wrote:This monk's view, while not shared by all, if any, is that you're more apt to get more 'instruction' reading, and putting to practice, the wealth of information available on the internet than in any temple in either Thailand, or Sri Lanka…wishing you well...
Venerable appicchato, I know that is not shared by all. "is that you're more apt to get more 'instruction' reading, and putting to practice, the wealth of information available on the internet than in any temple in either Thailand, or Sri Lanka…wishing you well..." think you are right on that, but living as monk and having a computer or computer access, is something that I don't know if will be accessible, depending where I ordain.
The kind of teaching I'm saying is: 1st jhana then vipassana on it; 2nd jhana then vipassana on it... and so on...
Thank you for your clarification Bhante.
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Thank for this friend.pilgrim wrote:The OP wishes to ordain . You can't do that thru the Net.
You can try Pa auk monastery in Myanmar
http://www.paauk.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or Na-Uyana in Sri Lanka
Na-Uyana Aranya, Pansiyagama 60554, Sri Lanka
Actually, I'm quite surprised that anyone here would discourage one from ordaining. Isn't that akusala?
I will analyse that too. Thank you friend, any other advice will be precious.BlackBird wrote:Personally would recommend Na Uyana in Sri Lanka over Pa Auk FM in Burma.
Na Uyana has excellent support, they take care of all foreign monks' passports, foods good, great solitude, and you have freedom to practice your own method of meditation IF you want. There's a good number of western monks there and they have a good library. The medical & dental support is a world above what you'll get in Burma, and for monks it is free.
Not trying to put you off Pa Auk in Burma, but it does have a reputation for malaria and the medical care you will get in Burma is not great, even by Asian standards.
Re: Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
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Re: Ordination - Thailand or Sri Lanka
This is the teaching instruction that I'm searching.
Anupadadhammavipassana
"Anupada Sutta: One After Another" (MN 111), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, June 14, 2010, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Actually that translation of Bhante Thanissaro is ok.
Anupadadhammavipassana
"Anupada Sutta: One After Another" (MN 111), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, June 14, 2010, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Actually that translation of Bhante Thanissaro is ok.
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Other possibilities in the west are Ajahn Brahm at Bodhinyana in Perth, Australia or Bhante Gunaratana in Bhavana Society, USA
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