manasikara wrote:Btw I could never broach this subject to the Bhikkhus I know 'in the physical world'
manasikara wrote:Btw I could never broach this subject to the Bhikkhus I know 'in the physical world', but I really appreciate that members of the Bhikkhu Sangha are here in this Forum to offer advice even about such difficult subjects as this one!
PS, someone said that if it's a problem, 'just don't do it!' Respectfully, that's like telling an alcoholic or a smoker 'well just stop' and expecting that it's just that simple. You have to have been addicted to something on a chemical level to know how tough the process of freeing yourself is. At the moment of orgasm, dopamine and other neurochemicals get released in the brain, and an orgasm junkie is actually hooked on those chemicals, more than the physical sensation of about ten seconds duration. It's chemical, that's why its as tough as alcohol or smokes to give up.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11333448)Drugs, money, sex, pornography, alcohol ... these things are destructive and divisive.
Monkey Mind wrote:manasikara wrote:Btw I could never broach this subject to the Bhikkhus I know 'in the physical world'
Why not? That is not meant as a criticism, but only to convey that I did broach this topic with monks. The guidance I received was very inspirational.
These problems can be overcome with the help of proper tools.
The key resource needed to deal with any addiction is the time and space to reflect. In the case of porn, time and space between the thought and porn website.
Such a distance is provided by parental control services. I've found very useful the service http://www.opendns.com/. It can block a range of websites, according to selected settings, including also those websites which can compromise computer security.
Another viable option is http://www1.k9webprotection.com/
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These services give you some time, and the rest is up to you.
"don't knock masturbation. It's sex with someone I love"XXX wrote:. . .
"meditation beats masturbation"
tiltbillings wrote:...it is at the moment when it stops that meditation "beats" masturbation. (There are way too many opportunities here for puns; I must behave myself.)
Vepacitta wrote:You could always set up a 'contest' like they did on Seinfeld ...
I wonder if the persons having trouble quitting are truly addicted -- as drug addicts and alcoholics are addicted -- or just having problems avoiding the allure? True sex addiction is very rare. We tend to use this term "addiction" quite freely when what we really mean is "i like it very much."
Porn is just ridiculous. Who cares about looking at nekkid people anyway?
There is no one sight, sound, smell, taste and touch other than that of a woman which can captivate and distract the mind of a man; conversely there is no one sight, sound, smell, taste ,and touch other then that of a man which can captivate and distract the mind of a woman. - AN 1.10
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