tiltbillings wrote:5heaps wrote:that ultimate refers to deepest objects?
But is the "ultimate" truer than the conventional?
theyre both true in the sense that they both exist. thats why theres
two truths.
but conventional truths dont exist in the way that they seem to, therefore theyre deceptive. and only the deceived take the deceptive to be true.
The Theravada does not necessarily teach "partless particles."
what else is it that you think it teaches?
that coarser build ups of partless particles are conventional?
According to whom?
to everyone i think. coarser build ups dont exist the way they seem. theyre deceptive and the deceived fall for them, subtly conceiving them as being unchanging, monolithic, etc.
Spiny O'Norman wrote:Isn't there just truth? Isn't there just insight? Isn't it just about seeing the way things really are?
only ultimate truth has the power to disrupt samsara. there is always the constant and utter danger of mistaking subtler relative truths as being the ultimate just because theyre subtler than coarser ones. for example there are people who think simple shamata is nirvana. but shamata is just a relative truth, its a conglomeration of mind ultimates.
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