Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

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Re: Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

Postby Ben » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:06 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

Postby legolas » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:19 pm

I am sorry tilt if you found my "ninnie" intemperate language. I do apologise.

As far as an "honest discussion" goes about this or that tradition or technique, I have observed that they usually become vitriolic rather than honest. So I will decline your offer.

However you are right in that if I refuse to discuss the different vipassana traditions then I should not take shots at them. Having said that, is it not the Buddha's Dhamma that is up for discussion and not any particular sect of the Sangha. I will reserve my comments to how I perceive differing practices and their relevance to the Buddha's words.

BTW Your comment "I suspect it reflects your actual feelings about those who disagree with your point of view" is a little bit like what you chastised me for. You dont know me but you appear to know my feelings. Is this vipassana from afar :lol: ( this is an emoticon that signifies that it was a joke)
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Re: Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

Postby manas » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:13 pm

My thanks to Vepacitta and IanAnd for their informative replies. (from a bit earlier...it's moving fast in here). I found the sutta references very helpful.

Once again I'm remembering that the Buddha gave teachings with regards to time and place, as well as the capability of the listener. There actually is a sutta where he says "Be yoked to internal pleasantness..." but I just can't find it at present. There must have been a particular reason he said that at that time.
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

Postby bodom » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:36 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

Postby Vepacitta » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:45 pm

I wish you'd comment more Nana - your posts are always informative.

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:24 pm

Tilt

In all your posts in this thread I haven't seen one that discusses Ian's (or others' by the way) exposition with substance. You argue with form and no substance is added. Why not quote the suttas to invalidate Ian's experience?
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Not Everything Is Written In Stone. . .

Postby Sobeh » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:15 pm

Is it a roughly accurate generalization to say that Vipassana folk are generally accepting of the Commentaries and Abhidhamma, while Jhana folk are generally not?

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