Quite honestly in all of what follows, I have not a clue as to what you are talking about.
tiltbillings wrote:Is ultimate truth "more real" than conventional truth?
from the point of view of simple existence theyre both real. for example both a hand and its deepest nature can rightly be said to exist.
a hand however is totally unreal from the pov of a deceived mind, since its perceived nature is a delusion. seeing a hand by definition obstructs the perception of its real nature. this mind, though, is correct with regard to the simple existence of the hand.
I am talking about the notion of two truths here. What are you talking about?
You really did not read what was written. Ultimately there are not indivisible mind moments.
i did. what makes you think there are not indivisible mind moments, from what is said in your quote? im sort of starting to think that by indivisible unit you take it to mean "absolute unity/single reality", which is not at all what i mean by indivisible. what i mean is the deepest characteristic nature at the root of deceptive characteristic natures.
Are you talking about "mind moments" as discrete entities, which is what "partless particles" certainly suggests, if not outright indicates? What do you mean? You are using jargon here without defining it, which does not help at all understand what you are saying.
what i mean is the deepest characteristic nature at the root of deceptive characteristic natures
And that means what? So, please explain in clear, lucid English what a "partless particle" is. Are you referring to dhammas as found in the Abhidhamma? Or what?
Shonin wrote:Any preference or apparent superiority of ultimate truth over conventional truth must be a conventional distinction.
how do you understand conventional truths?
How do you understand the two truths? Is the "conventional truth" you are asking about the same "conventional truth" as found in the two truths?
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80
Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.
dheamhan a fhios agam
Damned if I know.