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Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

The cultivation of calm or tranquility and the development of concentration
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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

Postby Kenshou » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:33 pm

I do recall that the says that if a monk wishes to enter whatever jhana, to quote Thanissaro's translation, "then he should attend carefully to this same concentration through mindfulness of in-&-out breathing.", which is defined in that same sutta as the 16 steps of anapanasati.

In the context of that sutta I don't think it's too farfetched to think that it's saying that jhana is connected to the 16 step anapanasati, which is shown in MN 118 and others to be connected to satipatthana.

I dunno, just throwing that out there.
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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

Postby Vepacitta » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:57 pm

I recall reading (and now I have to sort through my books) that either Aj. Sumedho said (or quoted Aj. Chah as saying) that whether you speak of Samatha Meditation or Vipassana - they each lead to the other. Samatha will lead one to insight - Vippasana will lead one towards concentration and calm.

If I get a moment over the weekend I will try and find it - and make sure I'm remembering that correctly (or not!) as the case may be.

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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Jhāna According to the Pāḷi Nikāyas

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:52 pm

Greetings,

I suppose the caveat to that though is that samatha existed prior to the Buddha's dispensation and it didn't enlighten anyone, in and of itself.

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
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- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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