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Afraid of completely letting go

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Afraid of completely letting go

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Dan74 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:43 am

James recently posted his experiences at a 6-month stay in Vipassana Meditation Centre (SN Goenka).

It might be a good idea to do an extended stay like this to see how "monastic-type" life (8 precepts?) and intense practice feels before plunging into ordination.
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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:06 am

Greetings Mettafuture,

My perspective is that the more you let go, the more you'll see the benefits of letting go, and the more you'll see danger in clinging. This being so, it will come to be that you'll be concerned about actually "not letting go" (i.e. craving and clinging).

Metta,
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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Jason » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:19 am

Hm, now why does this seem familiar? :tongue:
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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Ytrog » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:04 am

Mettafuture, thanks for asking this question. I was wondering about these things too. I'm not doing 8 precepts daily yet. I do keep 5 though.

How do you keep yourself healthy while not eating after-noon each day? I understand that monks do have varied meals in the morning, because of the alms they receive. What do you have in the morning to keep you from getting malnutrition? I only breakfast with some sandwiches, so that wouldn't sustain me.

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Goofaholix » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:28 am

Looking at your list of fears all of these things could just as easily happen if you don't ordain.

I don't think fear is a good guide by which to choose to do or not to do something, fear is rarely rational. I think it would be worthwhile learning to look at your fears objectively to see if you can determine what is at the root of them, there might be some insight to be had.

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby J_W » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:20 am

Mettafuture,

A few years ago I also was inclining towards ordination, but partly due to fears that I wasn't ready did not do so. Now I am working to clear a debt so I can finally take the plunge. I would say that the opportunity to ordain is very rare, if you have the inclination and meet the requirements you should consider trying it out. Many traditions would want you to spend time as an anagarika anyway; the Western Ajahn Chah monasteries want you to spend two years - one as an anagarika and one as a samanera - before ordination. You won't clear up all of your fears completely until attaining arahantship, so why not stay at a monastery for a few months and see how that affects your practise? It is uncertain when such an opportunity might arise again.

Mettaya,

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Hanzze » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:27 am

_/\_
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Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Dan74 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:31 am

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Re: Afraid of completely letting go

Postby Hanzze » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:34 am

_/\_
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Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_


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