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Einstein and Buddhism

Postby clw_uk » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:56 pm

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby cooran » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:22 pm

Thanks clw_uk.

Could you give the reference location please? I'd be very interested to read more. :smile:

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby clw_uk » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:32 pm

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:32 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby clw_uk » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:33 pm

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:51 pm

Hi Craig,

That's a quote that some of us have spent a while trying to verify. I've not yet seen a reliable source.

It's kind of interesting to see what Einstein had to say about these things, since he was obviously a clever fellow. However, much as I admire Einstein (and routinely use the physics he helped to create), he's certainly not the last word on Religion, Philosophy, or even Physics (of course, he had a hand in creating much of modern physics, but his major impact was a century ago). I'm not an expert on philosophy, but in light of occasional discussions with professional philosophers, my impression is that that the "philosophical" pronouncements of 20th Century Physicists, such as Einstein, Feynman, etc, often do not stand up particularly well to detailed analysis.

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby clw_uk » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:01 pm

I see what you mean, i tried searching now for it and it does seem to be a phantom quote, still the first one was quite good :jumping:

Wasnt trying to put it accross that he was the final word, just find him interesting so thought id share what he said :smile:



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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:10 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:45 am

I spent quite a bit of time researching the authenticity of those 'buddhism' quotes attributed to Albert Einstein a couple of years ago. I got in touch with the Albert Einstein Archives - either in Germany or Israel, and received a response from the head archivist/curator who assured me that a lot of things were attributed to Einstein that he didn't say or publish. A case of people putting words into his mouth.
I could not locate any material stated by or published by Einstein that mentioned Buddhism, though I would love to be corrected on this one.
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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:17 am

there was a quote of his in defense of christianity that was a fraud too, in fact even in his life he was aware of it and there are letters of his talking about how he had no idea where it came from...
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Re: Einstein and Buddhism

Postby piotr » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:33 am

Bhagavaṃmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā...


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