Questions about the first jhana

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Questions about the first jhana

Postby Individual » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:12 pm

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby Sobeh » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:02 am

Sound is a thorn for the first jhana, and I recall a Sutta in the Majjhima about a monk who told Ananda to keep the monks quiet because that monk was unable to enter jhana, on account of the sound.

As for afterward, there's a Sutta about the Buddha being able to sit alongside a parade procession and not notice it, but I always assumed that apart from the sammasamadhi formula, jhana-range was an imponderable.

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Postby Ytrog » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:14 am

If you have thoughts, then it isn't jhana.

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby cooran » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:54 am

Hello Individual, all,

Perhaps chapter 3 may be of assistance? -
The Jhanas in Theravada Buddhist Meditation - by Henepola Gunaratana
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el351.html

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:20 am

Greetings,

Sound is a thorn indeed... I was just trying to meditate earlier, but the dogs kept on sniffling, scratching, yelping, shaking themselves, eating etc.

Normally, such things would barely register.

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby Nyana » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:07 pm

Hi Individual & all,

These teachings by Ven. Gunaratana may also be helpful.

What is samatha-vipassanā? (Pt 1):



What is samatha-vipassanā? (Pt 2):



Why do some teachers warn against practicing jhāna-s?



What are the benefits of practicing jhāna-s? (Pt 1):



What are the benefits of practicing jhāna-s? (Pt 2):



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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby Ytrog » Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:07 pm

Ajahn Brahm dedicated an entire book to the achieving and developing of jhana. You might want to check it out.

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

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I watched the videos. They were nice. I think I will visit the Bhavana Society in West Virginia soon.
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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:27 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby IanAnd » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:11 am

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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Re: Questions about the first jhana

Postby bodom » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:04 pm

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To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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With mindfulness immersed in the body
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with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
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Re: Questions about the first jhana

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"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV


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