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Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

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Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby MisterChi » Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:52 pm

I've got a solid, three-year nei kung practice under my belt and have been using it as a meditation practice as well. Am I alone in here? Would love to share tales with fellow alchemists.
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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby jonno » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:58 pm

Hi I use my chi kung and tai chi excercises as a moving meditation. Both practices place the emphasis on the breath therefore it seems compatible with Buddhist Med . I find that at times I am in a state of intense mindfulness similar to that experienced in walking meditation. Happy practicing love JONNO :quote:

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Individual » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:17 am

Like Indian yoga and ayurveda, it is superstition mixed with truth.

It has a powerful subjective, psychological effect that skeptical western minds don't often understand But the objective claims made without regard for western anatomy & physiology are nonsense. Eating cinnabar won't make you live forever (quite the contrary), if you try to live off a diet of air and saliva you will starve to death regardless of your mind, and swinging your limbs around and engaging in controlled breathing won't allow you to levitate, throw balls of energy, or heal your own or others illnesses.

Lots of western people are enchanted by these "mystical cures," because they are desperate. But they don't see that it's just the Asian version of what we had in the middle ages. In the middle ages, Europeans engaged in blood-letting through cuts and using leeches, to remove "bad blood", among other magical cures.
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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Individual » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:03 pm

Sure, it can definitely help with pain, balance, posture, circulation, mood, and probably the immune system. But only to a certain extent. Aside from levitation and balls of energy, it can't cure cancer or AIDS either.

It's good for people with arthritis and similar forms of chronic pain.
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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Viscid » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:57 pm

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Individual » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:38 pm

Viscid: Similar to the discoveries by scientists that the effects of acupuncture are the same, regardless of whether the needles are placed in specific spots or not...

...What do you think the results would be of a study which compared the results of tai-chi's specific forms and movements vs. the results of similar practices involving slow, carefully controlled movements and breaths, while maintaining mindfulness? You could do a study, for instance, which takes a traditional tai-chi form, but then removes a certain mudra.
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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Viscid » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:54 pm

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Individual » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:12 pm

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Hoo » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:12 am

Thanks Individual :) Looks like I'll be reading for a while.

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Guy » Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:02 pm

I practice , its exercises include both Chi Kung and Nei Kung. It has helped my mental and physical health a great deal. Master Yang is a Buddhist too which is always nice. It is a fighting system, but its main aim is the happiness and well being of the student rather than competitions or beating people up.
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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby adept » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:59 pm

I've practiced Xing Yi Nei Gong daily for over 8 years now. Unlike Tai Chi, it can be learned from a book. It takes about 20 minutes to do the set.
I'm rarely ill, and my flexibility and strength is better than it was when I was in my twenties. (I'm in my forties now)

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

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Re: Chi Kung, Nei Kung practice

Postby Individual » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:41 am

I think I have to possibly retract my previous skepticism in this thread.

Because I think I just felt my dantian for the first time, after doing this:



I do weird stuff like that (I guess I'd call it freestyle yoga?) because it just makes me feel good -- no superstitions about it and no particular emphasis on learning and memorizing particular forms.

Anyway, after doing that, after the ninth pose... In my stomach, for several seconds, I felt a strange sensation. Might've just been indigestion combined with a tired and over-imaginative mind, but I'll experiment with it later on. In the past, I just thought the dantian was people being really mindful of the fact that belly fat is such a big source of stored energy (that maybe with deep concentration you could actually be consciously aware of belly fat being catabolized).

Others describe it as cosmic energy, a "vortex," etc.. For me, it reminded me of a toilet flushing.

I was thinking a bit earlier today that my thoughts on chi might be a bit mistaken. As lately, I often do feel this kind of tingly energy in my body. When I'm really energetic, it feels like a really minty vapor in my nostrils. When I say "energetic," I mean the energy that overcomes laziness, like when my body and mind tells me to sleep, but I refuse, and it's like I have to drag around a tired and lazy corpse. And when I meditate or concentrate throughout the day, of course, I'm often feeling various spots in my skull tingle.

Still think a lot of Chinese alchemy, etc., is nonsense, though. Lots of foolishly materialistic interpretations of mind medicine that result in emperors getting cinnabar poisoning.
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