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Bounty-hunters-wrong livelihood? Or a good job?

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Bounty-hunters-wrong livelihood? Or a good job?

Postby Annapurna » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:21 pm

Hi, all,

Perhaps you have watched the US series "Dog" the bounty- hunter from Hawaii on TV.

I watched it yesterday, suddenly wondering what type of livelihood that is.

On the one hand, it is some sort of trade with human beings.

You catch them, and get money for them.

But it's not trading slaves or prostitutes.

It's getting criminals off the roads, who could do more damage to our society if free.

So actually it's good livelihood, despite of the trade traces, or no? And then think of the karmic dimension of this.

I think this is quite fascinating to think about...also, because Dog had a past which was not so golden and he might be undoing some bad karma...

Your thoughts?

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Postby Fede » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:38 pm

They seem to be very determined and are not put off by being given the run-around.
The language is rich too.
However, (whatever your religious persuasion) they do pray a lot, and seem most devout.
And another thing I have noticed, is that they seem to care and have compassion for those they hunt, track down and bring in.
They're not physically gentle, but they use loving words, and seem to project a good attitude.
And they want a lot of the folks they catch to "clean up their act".

It's entertaining.

His wife is something else though..... :lol:
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Postby Annapurna » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:28 pm

Yes, they show compassion. Their intentions are good. They pray, I like that. They ask for blessings and protection in the way that is common in their environment, not very different from the Buddhist prayers I sometimes see.

So, is it wrong or right livelyhood, in the Buddhist sense, Fede? What would you say?
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Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:28 pm

"Trading in humans" means slave trade. Bounty hunters seem more like police consultants, hired to help enforce the law. I don't think this is wrong livelihood.
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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:31 pm

Greetings,

I agree with Peter that it doesn't constitute Wrong LIvelihood per se, but I think it would be a real challenge to uphold the Noble Eightfold Path as a Bounty Hunter... particularly Right Action and Right Thought/Intention.... even though apparently they do OK at the Right Speech.

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Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:56 am

Don't care for the program! it is not a case of justice but wallet is served!
yes some criminals need to be tracked down, but people are employed to do this, bounty hunters are looking for the money and in this case possible redemption.
bounty hunters pray not only on those who are wanted but on the pocket of those who want protecting!


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Postby stuka » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:08 am

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

That cat only just barely escaped Mexican prison -- only by his media-generated, and backed, celebrity -- for the kidnapping that brought so much initial media attention to his little freak show. Mexican prison makes Angola (LA) look like a cakewalk.

I am reminded of that "Crocodile Hunter" idiot, throwing himself on a stingray's barb.

One day, that poor attention-seeking moron will attempt to strut and showboat his way through some desperate soul's front door just long enough for them to place both barrels of a 12-gauge right on his lips and splatter his brains all over the following cameras and your television screen.

The price of ego-clinging is indeed high.

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Postby stuka » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:16 pm

Looks like you have already convinced yourself of whatever it is that you want to believe. Why are you asking us jackals for our opinions, then...? :roll:

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