The Feminine

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The Feminine

Postby Ana » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:02 pm

"Men are superior and women are inferior" :cry: :console:


Actually it's quite the opposite: "the feminine is the beginning of everything and man is the end of himself".
I explain, man is greedy and ambitious by nature, he is naturally farer from spirituality while woman is inherently bond to the spiritual world. It is easier for a woman to master and balance her impulses and it's no problem for a woman to live without sex. Buddha nature and becoming a Buddha is becoming feminine, getting rid of all masculine attributes, therefore it is more of a challenge for a spirit to achieve it in a male body, the woman is already feminine so she already has incorporated in her nature some of the characteristics of Buddha nature such as compassion, loving kindness, the will to help other sentient beings and all those qualities that are so characteristic of the feminine. It is exatcly because man is spiritually inferior that the spirit chooses a masculine body, so to make her path harder (it has nothing to do with social or cultural issues which are related to politics and power - if these issues mattered they would be dragging the spirit back to mundane thoughts and activity).
There is no need for women to feel bad about the possibility that spirits choose a masculine reincarnation, like there is no need for man to feel bad about their aggressive nature and spiritual inferior condition that needs to be mastered. Because very soon all men will be women and all women will be men.
However, there is a need to explain this issue about Buddha nature, since for so many milleniuns it hasn't been given the right explanation and it has served many political interested.

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Re: The Feminine

Postby clw_uk » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:07 pm

Isnt this going on the assumption that there is a permanent self or soul that is masculine or feminine or chooses masculine or feminine?


To see one as masculine or feminine is to identify with the body and or mental qualities



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Re: The Feminine

Postby Aloka » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:09 pm

Personally, (as a woman), I would imagine that higher realisation could be described as beyond male or female - in other words not being dependent on sexuality at all.

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Re: The Feminine

Postby jcsuperstar » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:23 pm

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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: The Feminine

Postby Ben » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:33 pm

Hi Yanick

When you get the time, you might like to read 'Great Disciples of the Buddha' edited by Bhikkhu Bodhi. Specifically, the chapter titled: Great Women Disciples of the Buddha. The accounts of these women's lives and deliverences are truly extraordinary and very inspirational.
As others have said, gender is no barrier to one becoming an arahant, and an arahant's enlightenment is the same enlightenment of a Buddha. The only main difference is that only a Sammasambuddha, one who rediscovers the Dhamma after it has been lost for aeons, can only be a human male.
Identifying oneself with one's gender is the conceit of 'I', 'me', 'mine'. As the Buddha continually said, there is no abiding core or self to be found anywhere, clinging to or identifying with anything, any concept, including gender, will only result in suffering.
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Re: The Feminine

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:56 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: The Feminine

Postby Aloka » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:26 am

Well spoken,Element, but voidness needs also to be accompanied by discerning wisdom.

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