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by Coëmgenu
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:04 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Re: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra

So I see now that you are reading "uniformity of ideas" as experience of the dhyāna without smṛti and other factors, as in the earlier posted picture of the momentary process that links the first jhāna absorption with the second in the Pāli tradition. The uniformity of ideas prevents reflexive self-...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is the operation of Dependent Origination individual or collective?
Replies: 36
Views: 283

Re: Is the operation of Dependent Origination individual or collective?

What would it mean for dependent origination to be "collective?" Would it mean that each being goes through the same "steps" simultaneously and together? "Individually, all conditioned things are dependently originated" and "collectively, all conditioned things are dependently originated" are largel...
by Coëmgenu
Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:00 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Re: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra

See vol 4 pages 1239-1241 reproduced here . The post I link you to incorrectly identifies that passage as having Sautrāntika views outlined but I correct that later. Ven Vasubandhu could always be just plain wrong. I don't know if concerning dhyāna was one of the objections Ven Samghabhadra had to ...
by Coëmgenu
Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:37 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Re: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra

See vol 4 pages 1239-1241 reproduced here . The post I link you to incorrectly identifies that passage as having Sautrāntika views outlined but I correct that later. Ven Vasubandhu could always be just plain wrong. I don't know if concerning dhyāna was one of the objections Ven Samghabhadra had to K...
by Coëmgenu
Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:01 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Re: Meditation According to the Abhidharma Mahāvibhāṣa Śāstra

Where in the paper does it explain that the Sarvāstivādins believe in dhyāna without vision, hearing, and tactile sensation? First dhyāna has all of these according to how Abhidharmakośakārikā characterizes the Vaibhāṣika teachings.
by Coëmgenu
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Consciousness as nama ?
Replies: 73
Views: 3621

Re: Consciousness as nama ?

In Vajrayana, refuge is taken in "the Lama, Buddha, Dharma, & Sangha". The lama (guru) comes first. The version I am familiar with has the three jewels re-interpreted as aspects of the Guru rather than the Guru being a fourth refuge. It goes something like, if I'm not mistaken: Refuge in the Samgha...
by Coëmgenu
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Bhikkhu Nanananda converted. Disciples did not.
Replies: 44
Views: 818

Re: Bhikkhu Nanananda converted. Disciples did not.

Hopefully this is not "too political" to warrant it being moved or deleted, but if I am not woefully misinformed, there was some hesitancy to admit Thatcher as a leader of UK conservatives because she was basically "a liberal" by the older reckoning of "liberal vs conservative." It was her economics...
by Coëmgenu
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:03 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Bhikkhu Nanananda converted. Disciples did not.
Replies: 44
Views: 818

Re: Bhikkhu Nanananda converted. Disciples did not.

Apparently on his death bed Darwin converted to Christianity in the end :? That one was an obvious lie because we speak English and can investigate the claims. This one is harder to investigate for non-English speakers. I suspect it is not true, like the claim that Darwin renounced the theory of ev...
by Coëmgenu
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6950
Views: 962808

Re: Rebirth Debate

The above appears to be a misunderstanding, again. [...] If one had concentration and was following the discussion, it was scenario #4 that was being discussed rather than scenario #1. I can't imagine how you read the text of this thread and determined that anyone at all thought that scenario 1 was...
by Coëmgenu
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:09 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Translation help
Replies: 4
Views: 126

Re: Translation help

It's outlining five constituents of "name." It matches the Pali sutta version. 痛 vedanā 想 saññā 念 cetanā 更樂 phasso 思惟 manasikāro 念 is being atypically translated, and is normally "sati" in lists like these in SA etc. 更樂 as phasso is the key. 更樂 as "sensory" is attested to in 更樂食, or "sensory food/fo...
by Coëmgenu
Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6950
Views: 962808

Rebirth Debate

A user posted a quotation from the Mahākammavibhaṅgasutta at MN 136, but as usual it was selectively quoted with the context left out and missing: 18. (iv) "Now there is the person who has abstained from killing living beings here... has had right view. And on the dissolution of the body, after deat...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:10 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: i dont like the term 'unbound'
Replies: 19
Views: 329

Re: i dont like the term 'unbound'

"(Un)bound" comes from "(nir)vāna." There are two senses of both "vāna" and "vāyati," one of which refers to blowing or emitting air and the other to sewing or "binding." The PTS dictionary identifies a "by-form" (meaning here an irregular form of a word, often one whose formation or development is ...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:20 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: bodhisattvas
Replies: 13
Views: 224

Re: bodhisattvas

The story of Avalokiteśvara is that he is a real person who is an advanced practitioner of Mahāyāna Buddhism. Whether or not he "really exists" is another matter. Another less common story of the origins of Avalokiteśvara is that he is a manōmayakāya of a foreign Tathāgata from another world-system ...
by Coëmgenu
Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:10 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Zen Priests who promoted breaking precepts on killing
Replies: 23
Views: 677

Re: Zen Priests who promoted breaking precepts on killing

The precept weilds the blade, throws the bomb, etc. I suppose the precept irradiated Nagasaki. Here's another odd Zen thing to say: To obey the precepts is to be but an animal. To break them is to be a human. It is like a weird version of "To err is human." It has its point, I'm sure, but it is also...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:23 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Jhana and the early Mahayana
Replies: 159
Views: 3373

Re: Jhana and the early Mahayana

So it looks like the reason these debates go on forever is because the sutta can be interpreted in two ways, and I'm hardly the first to point this out in the thread. AN 6.63 says "saṅkapparāgo purisassa kāmo," which Ven Sujāto translates as "Greedy intention is a person’s sensual pleasure." The sam...