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by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Re: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

In fact, Vyasa who wrote the Brahma sutras classified the Pali Canon reliant school as "realists", and delineated them from the Yogacara "idealists" and Madhyamaka "nihilists": This Sutra begins the refutation of the Bauddha school. There are three principal schools of Buddhism, viz . the Realists, ...
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Re: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

The final word is just simple common sense. If the Buddha meant to teach exactly as the Yogacara did (or something very similar): "all is mind", he would have just said so. The Pali Canon would read exactly like the Mahayana sutras that teach all is mind, as well as the Yogacara teachings that teach...
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:22 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Re: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

Nicolas wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:20 pm
Nicolas wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:32 am Kaccānagotta Sutta (SN 12.15)
For one who sees the origin of the world as it really is with correct wisdom, there is no notion of nonexistence in regard to the world.
[...]
‘All does not exist’: this is the second extreme.
(Adding the actual quote.)
Thank you!
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Re: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

"all is imaginary/illusory/mind/etc.," The Pali canon supports it. Wynne comes to the conclusion that: The ultimate truth to which Gotama has awakened is that our world of experience belongs in the mind: "I declare that the world, its arising, cessation and the way thereto occurs in this very fatho...
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Re: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

Kaccānagotta Sutta (SN 12.15) For one who sees the origin of the world as it really is with correct wisdom, there is no notion of nonexistence in regard to the world. [...] ‘All does not exist’: this is the second extreme. (Adding the actual quote.) The "All" here (Sabbaṃ) does not refer to the wor...
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Re: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view? Perhaps under different wording like "nothing is true," "nothing exists," "all is imaginary/illusory/mind/etc.," Anything that could even cover this idea broadly? He discussed so many...
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:15 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Orthodox explanation of a SN 12.11?
Replies: 9
Views: 480

Re: Orthodox explanation of a SN 12.11?

DooDoot wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:11 am A ‘being’ is created from craving for food, such as the mentally constructed (painted) idea: “I am hungry”.
Forgive my dullness but I still don't understand how that explains the sutta which talks about the origin (creation, source) of food. What is the origin of food?
by zan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?
Replies: 34
Views: 701

Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view?

Is there a sutta in the Pali Canon where someone holds the view "all is unreal" and the Buddha addresses this view? Perhaps under different wording like "nothing is true," "nothing exists," "all is imaginary/illusory/mind/etc.," Anything that could even cover this idea broadly? He discussed so many ...
by zan
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha use all six pramanas? Or strictly just two?
Replies: 1
Views: 102

Did the Buddha use all six pramanas? Or strictly just two?

Supposedly Buddhism accepts only two of the pramanas. However I feel like reading the Pali Canon you find that the Buddha uses all six, especially considering that the suttas themselves are considered as valid knowledge and that would even be the sixth pramana, sabda, which is in general not used by...
by zan
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Orthodox explanation of a SN 12.11?
Replies: 9
Views: 480

Re: Orthodox explanation of a SN 12.11?

“Bhikkhus, these four kinds of nutriment have what as their source, what as their origin, from what are they born and produced? These four kinds of nutriment have craving as their source, craving as their origin; they are born and produced from craving . -SN 12.11 So, food, for example, an apple, i...
by zan
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:25 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Orthodox explanation of a SN 12.11?
Replies: 9
Views: 480

Orthodox explanation of a SN 12.11?

thus have i heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Savatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anathapiṇḍika’s Park…. “Bhikkhus, there are these four kinds of nutriment for the maintenance of beings that have already come to be and for the assistance of those about to come to be. What four? The nutri...
by zan
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:53 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the origin of form?
Replies: 7
Views: 183

Re: What is the origin of form?

A frequent statement in the suttas: “Mendicants, I say that the ending of defilements is for one who knows and sees, not for one who does not know or see. For one who knows and sees what? ‘Such is form, such is the origin of form, such is the ending of form. -SN 12.23 When I read this statement in ...
by zan
Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:39 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Was the Buddha secretly teaching Ajnana doctrine?
Replies: 31
Views: 442

Re: Was the Buddha secretly teaching Ajnana doctrine?

Read AN 3.84 - essentially he said give up greed, hatred and delusion and you won't do anything unskilful by body, speech or mind. Then read MN 74 to see what the Buddha had to say to the wanderer who claimed to hold no views. Did the Buddha say that arahantship is even the abandoning of Right View...
by zan
Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Was the Buddha secretly teaching Ajnana doctrine?
Replies: 31
Views: 442

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The following from the Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw's discourses on the Anattalakhana Sutta may help : "Dīghanakha could not grasp the motive behind the Blessed One's statement. He assumed that the Blessed One was commending him for his view that there is nothing after death, that is why he said, "Mast...
by zan
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:23 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the origin of form?
Replies: 7
Views: 183

Re: What is the origin of form?

The Four Noble Truths! :anjali: The origin of form is the four noble truths? I'm not familiar with this teaching. Could you please provide a sutta where this is stated? 1 ‘Such is form, "Suffering, as a noble truth, is this: Birth is suffering, aging is suffering, sickness is suffering, death is su...