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by zan
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can anyone solve the issue of the mahabhutas in the commentaries without rejecting nor contradicting realism?
Replies: 62
Views: 2616

Re: Can anyone solve the issue of the mahabhutas in the commentaries without rejecting nor contradicting realism?

For posterity, there is a possibility that modern physics is compatible with the concept of substances: Thermal substances: a Neo-Aristotelian ontology of the quantum world Robert C. Koons Abstract The paper addresses a problem for the unification of quantum physics with the new Aristotelianism: the...
by zan
Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can anyone solve the issue of the mahabhutas in the commentaries without rejecting nor contradicting realism?
Replies: 62
Views: 2616

Re: Can anyone solve the issue of the mahabhutas in the commentaries without rejecting nor contradicting realism?

Also interesting how the Jains also refused to answer the unanswered questions, but in a different way to the Buddha Is the “loka” (here meaning both “world” and “self”) eternal or is it, Jamāli, non-eternal? Being asked in this manner, Jamāli was doubtful and wanted to know, but was overwhelmed wi...
by zan
Mon May 29, 2023 2:30 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?
Replies: 64
Views: 5523

Re: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?

Also if you keep saying stupid things, i will lash out at some point. Your attitude is appalling. you don't make sense here. Ceisiwr is the most proper Buddhist I've ever encountered on the internet. He and I disagree on almost everything. I've gotten frustrated at him, and been slightly rude at ti...
by zan
Mon May 29, 2023 2:28 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?
Replies: 64
Views: 5523

Re: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?

... Now, what you were saying? who are charlatans? Assuming you're promoting the idea that something survives parinibbana as a kind of eternal citta or something, you're the charlatan. There's defilement free state beyond rebirth. Sutta says they who have gone beyond understand rightly. Concise Pal...
by zan
Wed May 24, 2023 5:05 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?
Replies: 64
Views: 5523

Re: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?

I mean . . . has it ever occur to others that the teaching of anatta might not even be about "no / none self" . . .? The word "anatta" literally translates to "not self." The Buddha explains and substantiates this in context throughout the suttas, as well, and it is el...
by zan
Wed May 24, 2023 5:02 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?
Replies: 64
Views: 5523

Re: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?

auto wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 3:35 pm ...
Now, what you were saying? who are charlatans?
Assuming you're promoting the idea that something survives parinibbana as a kind of eternal citta or something, you're the charlatan.
by zan
Sat May 06, 2023 1:32 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?
Replies: 64
Views: 5523

Re: From the classical position only, in which nibbana is not self nor consciousness, why isn't nibbana self?

Self = soul = there is no such thing as soul. Consider nibbāno as the end of your life (last birth). For example, Bodhisatto Gotama attained nibbāno after 4 countless lifetimes plus 100,000 aeons. Let's just say that later when you have so many aeons you will definitely reach nibbāno. Agreed. Well ...
by zan
Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:07 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

I'm not seeing any mention of dependent origination. Am I missing it? I have a tendency to read too fast sometimes lol! Edit: I read it again, slowly, and it doesn't seem to mention it at all. It delineates the elements as temporary, suffering, and so on, but makes no mention of dependent originati...
by zan
Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:38 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

Ah. Okay, thanks. Where in the suttas does the Buddha clearly state, outside of the context of the twelve links, that the four great primaries (mahabhutas) are dependently originated? I can't find any suttas that give much detail on the source of the mahabhutas, nor even really what they are. The o...
by zan
Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:55 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

This also seems very relevant. Here, the Buddha clearly confirms that the elements exist. “Reverends, do you see this large tree trunk?” “Yes, reverend.” “If they wanted to, a mendicant with psychic powers who has mastered their mind could determine this tree trunk to be nothing but earth. Why is t...
by zan
Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:47 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

This also seems very relevant. Here, the Buddha clearly confirms that the elements exist. “Reverends, do you see this large tree trunk?” “Yes, reverend.” “If they wanted to, a mendicant with psychic powers who has mastered their mind could determine this tree trunk to be nothing but earth. Why is th...
by zan
Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:03 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

I don't have any problem with all of that. I was merely pointing out that charges of being nonsensical are quite often brought up against Theravāda just as much as Mahāyāna. If all is empty, who awakens? How can someone practice if there is no one to practice? And so on. When people are so used to ...
by zan
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:45 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

Is all of this bad? No, not necessarily. It can free one of Mahayana Buddhism itself! That's what it did for me! The very teachings, if taken to their full logical extrapolations, must be thrown out entirely. It is blissful freedom. Letting go of thousands of pages of texts, thousands of teachings,...
by zan
Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:26 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

Zen runs with this, to it's full logical conclusion, and declares that revering the Buddha, practicing, etc. are absurd, and, if it were true that nothing exists or whatever, then rightfully so! If that were true, then there is no reason to follow a bunch of ancient texts rules that don't exist in ...
by zan
Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:08 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada vs Mahayana
Replies: 69
Views: 4306

Re: Theravada vs Mahayana

Yeah, didn't even read this. You're a troll. I'm no longer going to bother with you. Best of luck.

Edit: Apologies if I accidentally quoted this wrong, this post was meant to be a reply to
Coëmgenu wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:57 pm