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by Circle5
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada against mathematics
Replies: 721
Views: 101625

Re: Theravada against mathematics

I have not yet read all the 20 pages of this topic, but has anyone explained this correctly already? Buddha answered like that because of the "almost surely paradox" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_surely Buddha was once asked: Since beings will get reborn here to infinity and all s...
by Circle5
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ontology vs Soteriology
Replies: 19
Views: 3013

Re: Ontology vs Soteriology

Buddha said there are 2 types of disciples: those that are dragged forward by wisdom and those that are dragged by tranquility. A person doing good with wisdom will then start doing better in other areas too. On the other hand, a person doing good with his overall traits will slowly start gaining mo...
by Circle5
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Honor and Shame
Replies: 4
Views: 1276

Re: Honor and Shame

Check this out: "If that's so, Master Ananda, then it's an endless path, and not one with an end, for it's impossible that one could abandon desire by means of desire." https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn51/sn51.015.than.html In order to be successful on the buddhist path, you n...
by Circle5
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: "There's no self": a sutta says

Greetings Circle5, Also, don't you find it amusing to use "is" or "are" instead of "exist" but by that, mean exactly what everybody else means by "exist"? What point does changing "things exist" into "things are" has? The Dhamma is about &...
by Circle5
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does consciousness exist?
Replies: 95
Views: 14422

Re: Does consciousness exist?

We have a sutta where Buddha speaks directly about this: At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, I don’t argue with the world; it’s the world that argues with me. When your speech is in line with the teaching you don’t argue with anyone in the world. What the astute agree on as not existing, I too say does not ex...
by Circle5
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: "There's no self": a sutta says

This "because" is yours and yours alone. Likewise, "do not exist" (i.e. non-existence) is not the appropriate manner in which regard dhammas either. Both polarities, existence and non-existence are rejected, and replaced by the teaching of paticcasamuppada that goes down the mid...
by Circle5
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

You mean no real self. Obviously when "you" (the mind) gets angry or frustrated or feel humiliated, there is a "self" in the mind; albeit an imaginary self. Do you think beings murdering & exploiting another beings are free of self? ... draw our attention to that, just as th...
by Circle5
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

The point Buddha is always trying to make is that there is no self anywhere, whatsoever... You mean no real self. Obviously when "you" (the mind) gets angry or frustrated or feel humiliated, there is a "self" in the mind; albeit an imaginary self. Do you think beings murdering &...
by Circle5
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: "There's no self": a sutta says

Greetings Circle5, Respectfully, you clearly do not know what my argument is, nor the reasons for it, so regardless of your intentions, you are simply shadowboxing. For whatever reason (and I'm endeavouring to politely refrain from articulating what I think it might be), you're resolved on your &qu...
by Circle5
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

Please show us a sutta that demonstrates he says they cannot be said to exist because we can notice their arising. I'll wait. You see, this is why I asked you my previous question: So you share Buddha view, that's great. But why do you share this view? You again confirmed that you believe this view...
by Circle5
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

Because it is correct, and in accord with how things are - i.e. it is Dhamma. This has already been answered via the Blessed One's words... So you agree with the Buddha that claiming inconstant feeling, inconstant perceptions, inconstant form, etc. can not be said not to exist, because we can notic...
by Circle5
Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

Let us rejoice in the Blessed One's words... So you share Buddha view, that's great. But why do you share this view? Why do you believe that claiming "feelings/form/perceptions/etc do not exist" is wrong? I have no opinion either way, nor do I consider it "appropriate attention"...
by Circle5
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

Yes, and...? (Please note that as a courtesy to the OP, I'm expecting you to get back to the topic at hand, and am allowing your oblique questioning for now only on the expectation that it will return there...) If you have seen and understood the arising of form, consciousness, feelings, perception...
by Circle5
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:20 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "There's no self": a sutta says
Replies: 41
Views: 7657

Re: THERE'S NO SELF: a sutta says

retrofuturist wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:23 pm [...]
Let me ask you something: Have you ever noticed things arising? Have you ever noticed feelings arising, forms arising, perceptions arising, etc.?
by Circle5
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Breaking News! Theravada down on Original Buddhism rankings
Replies: 23
Views: 5390

Re: Breaking News! Theravada down on Original Buddhism rankings

If you work from an assumption that Early Theravadins had it wrong and Abhidhamma is wrong then this makes sense, otherwise it does not hold true. Each to their own but i find it to be quite arrogant position. What can you or i possibly figure out that the Arahants during the first 500 years of the...