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by mikenz66
Wed May 05, 2021 8:00 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One, Two, Three and Four (Week of May 2, 2021)
Replies: 68
Views: 764

Re: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One and Two (Week of May 2, 2021)

This is my other favourite from the threes. Perhaps because it doesn't speak of ultimate attainments, so is a little easier to identify with... :tongue: Dantikātherīgāthā (Dantikā) Thig 3.4 Leaving my day’s meditation on Vulture’s Peak Mountain, I saw an elephant on the riverbank having just come up...
by mikenz66
Wed May 05, 2021 7:56 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One, Two, Three and Four (Week of May 2, 2021)
Replies: 68
Views: 764

Re: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One and Two (Week of May 2, 2021)

Aparāsāmātherīgāthā (Another Sāmā) Thig 3.1 In the twenty-five years since I went forth, I don’t know that I had ever found serenity in my mind. I had failed to find peace of heart, or any control over my mind. When I remembered the victor’s instructions, I was struck with a sense of urgency. Thoug...
by mikenz66
Wed May 05, 2021 7:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Fake Speech
Replies: 16
Views: 243

Re: Fake Speech

Pondera wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:14 pm I do in fact derive a small sense of happiness knowing that I can be excessively polite to individuals of all tempers. 😉
Do you not derive some happiness for sending them away happy?


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Mike
by mikenz66
Wed May 05, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Fake Speech
Replies: 16
Views: 243

Re: Fake Speech

... There are deeper social meanings to these actions. Strict minimalism can imply clinging. Great points. I'm not always successful, but my aim is for small talk to be something of a gift to the person I'm speaking to, providing something genuine that will give them a positive feeling. That's how ...
by mikenz66
Tue May 04, 2021 10:34 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 736
Views: 223987

Re: Jhana

PS anyone wishing to discuss Jhana originated by Jains, pl. head towards "Connections to Other Paths" With love :candle: I have not followed this thread particularly closely, but is the implication of this post that Jhana as described in Theravada Commentaries such as the Visuddhimagga, or as descr...
by mikenz66
Tue May 04, 2021 12:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?
Replies: 77
Views: 784

Re: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?

I am somewhat confused by this conversation. Is pain (which arahants apparently feel) dukkha or not? If they [an arahant] feel a painful feeling, they feel it detached. dukkhañce vedanaṁ vedeti, visaṁyutto naṁ vedeti; https://suttacentral.net/mn140/en/sujato “Reverend Koṭṭhita, a perfected one shoul...
by mikenz66
Mon May 03, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?
Replies: 77
Views: 784

Re: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?

My pleasure, Mike. Yes, SN22.122 (Sīlavantasutta) & SN22.123 (Sutavantasutta) are quite identical suttas, differing only in ... umm ... I forgot :lol: Hmm, yes, I didn't notice that they are both there... Here's Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation: 123 (11) Instructed (This sutta is identical with the prec...
by mikenz66
Mon May 03, 2021 7:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?
Replies: 77
Views: 784

Re: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?

Hi SDA: Regarding five clinging aggregates and arahants: sn22.122 ... Thank you for that. Very helpful! Note that the Sutta Central and Bhikkhu Bodhi reference is SN22.123 “Reverend Koṭṭhita, a perfected one should properly attend to the five grasping aggregates as impermanent, as suffering, as dise...
by mikenz66
Mon May 03, 2021 6:32 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which of these Mahayana/Vajrayana traditions are most compatible with the Palicanon and Theravada traditions?
Replies: 22
Views: 586

Re: Which of these Mahayana/Vajrayana traditions are most compatible with the Palicanon and Theravada traditions?

Hi Bhante, That brings back memories. As a teenager I had to study Psalm 137 in Anglican confirmation class. A rather unusual choice, but it was June '78 and Boney M's By the Rivers of Babylon was number one in the British charts. And so Roy Catchpole, our spikey-haired, lefty vicar, who was obsesse...
by mikenz66
Mon May 03, 2021 2:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?
Replies: 77
Views: 784

Re: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?

Thanks Mike. But what I understand from that quote is that what is going to cool down is whatever is felt, the feeling aggregate. I don't believe it means suffering since the cause of suffering is craving and attachment was already given up at enlightenment. If I'm wrong I trust I will understand c...
by mikenz66
Mon May 03, 2021 2:34 am
Forum: Study Group
Topic: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One, Two, Three and Four (Week of May 2, 2021)
Replies: 68
Views: 764

Re: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One and Two (Week of May 2, 2021)

I'm not sure that "tough" is the right term here. I think they are simply beyond caring or being embarrassed by such things. Tough people tell it like it is because they understand it is a big deal, but they have the strength not to flinch. These seem to tell it like it is because they realise it i...
by mikenz66
Sun May 02, 2021 8:34 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One, Two, Three and Four (Week of May 2, 2021)
Replies: 68
Views: 764

Re: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One and Two (Week of May 2, 2021)

See the link Mike posted, I agree that it certainly could be in reference to sex. Yes, these are tough women, who tell it like it is, not delicate "shrinking violets". I think that's a key takeaway message from these verses. They tell it like it is/was: [quote="Thig5.2] I adorned this body, so fanc...
by mikenz66
Sun May 02, 2021 8:22 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?
Replies: 77
Views: 784

Re: Do arhants thought generate painful feeling ?

I think this sutta is relevant: They understand: ‘Rebirth is ended, the spiritual journey has been completed, what had to be done has been done, there is no return to any state of existence.’ If they feel a pleasant feeling, they understand that it’s impermanent, that they’re not attached to it, and...
by mikenz66
Sun May 02, 2021 8:03 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One, Two, Three and Four (Week of May 2, 2021)
Replies: 68
Views: 764

Re: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One and Two (Week of May 2, 2021)

Sam Vara wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:02 pm Yes, I wondered about that, and in particular whether the mortar and pestle might be some kind of sexual imagery. ...
Here is Bhikkhu Sujato's comment: On crooked things. Oh, and sex
And on another mention of pestles: What happens in Thig 2.3?

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Mike
by mikenz66
Sun May 02, 2021 7:58 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One, Two, Three and Four (Week of May 2, 2021)
Replies: 68
Views: 764

Re: Therīgāthā, The Verses of the Elder Bhikkhunīs, Book One and Two (Week of May 2, 2021)

Note that these translations are a joint project. From the Info for each of the translations: Translation description This translation aims to make a clear, readable, and accurate rendering of the Therīgāthā. The initial draft was by Jessica Walton, and it was completed by Bhikkhu Sujato in 2019. Th...